Jonathan Neville Weighs in on the “Nygren Incident”

[Doctor Scratch]

Still complete silence from the Mopologists, but Neville has posted a blog entry:

https://www.moronisamerica.com/clown-wo ... peter-pan/

All things considered, this seems remarkably gracious. Neville wraps up with some (admittedly far-fetched) hopes for the future:

What I hope to see as a result of this clown fiasco is a change among the M2C citation cartel specifically and LDS scholarship generally.

First, Dan Peterson should own up to his own complicity in accommodating and promoting the entire charade.

Second, any legitimate scholars associated with the Interpreter, Book of Mormon Central, BYU Studies, or any other publication/organization that employs, publishes, or works with this crew should seriously reconsider.

Third, LDS scholars should embrace in practice, and not just give lip service to, the basic principle set forth in the recent issue of BYU Studies, along with the “no more contention” theme of the recent General Conference.

It’s interesting: one of the more recent angles of attack from “SeN” was to treat Neville as being “guilty by association” due to appearing on th Backyard Professor’s podcast, but that’s obviously a very bad thing for DCP to be doing now that Robert Boylan’s hardcore DezNat/Alt-right sympathies have come to light. I mean, what’s worse: hanging out with a jubilantly cheerful ex-Mo, or promoting the work of a dour and embittered white nationalist?

And Neville’s description is interesting, too: “clown fiasco.” Yes—that’s no doubt accurate. My question is: If the Heartlanders are as bad as DCP and the Mopologists claim, then where are the Heartlander versions of, e.g., the 2nd Watson Letter? Or the “Two Inks” fraud? Or “Metcalfe is Butthead”? Or this “Nygren Affair”?

I have to say: the Mopologists really may have outdone themselves this time in terms of the scope and gravity of their screwup. I’m betting that we still haven’t seen the last fallout from this issue.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I’m betting that we still haven’t seen the last fallout from this issue.

Perhaps the good people over at the SCMC ought to talk to the young adjunct professor Stephen O. Smoot, and explain to him that showing up at Sandra Tanner’s bookstore with a posse while wearing a PornHub parody t-shirt isn’t the best look for BYU or the cojcolds:



So, now we have the mopologists having cavorted with a Putin apologist, a DezNat sympathizer, and a pair of duplicitous offenders for a word in Peter Pan and Captain Hook. Crazy.

- Doc

[TwoCumorahFraud]

LDS Apologetics = promoting fake Book of Mormon geography from Independence, MO., created during World War 1. They hide their source same as hiding behind a clown mask or a Disney character.

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1917bwMap

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookLostCumorah

Wikihow explains how to sell old books and maps in the Public Domain.
https://www.wikihow.com/Sell-Public-Domain-eBooks

Or just create an organization and call it F.A.R.M.S.

[TwoCumorahFraud]

Here are some examples of why the brilliant LDS Apologetic scholars didn’t attribute Louis E. Hills as the creator of M2C.

To get rid of the RLDS Church hemispheric model for The Book of Mormon, in his 1924 book, Hills claimed North America was not always connected to South America. See the image:
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookNoPanama

One excuse for that is the Giant Sloth found in South America as you can read here on the next page:
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookGiantSloth

That would be too embarrassing for Dr. John L. Sorenson PhD., to use for the Academic Community. So he decided not to plagiarize it. Instead, he came up with the idea that the Mesoamerican Baird’s Tapir was a Nephite horse.

http://jenna-jaguar3.blogspot.com/2013/ ... ammal.html

Brilliant guys those self-annointed LDS Apologists.
Then they claim Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery were idiots when it came to the geography of The Book of Mormon.
This is why they’re attacking Jonathan Neville over Oliver Cowdery’s Letter VII.

https://tinyurl.com/JSPapersLetterVII

https://www.amazon.com/Letter-VII-Cowde ... 160&sr=8-1

Tapirs as Nephite Horses is more important than Oliver Cowdery’s statements, because Book of Mormon Central and Interpreter Foundation beg for donations. LOL

Follow the money.

[consiglieri]

I’m betting that we still haven’t seen the last fallout from this issue.

Perhaps the good people over at the SCMC ought to talk to the young adjunct professor Stephen O. Smoot, and explain to him that showing up at Sandra Tanner’s bookstore with a posse while wearing a PornHub parody t-shirt isn’t the best look for BYU or the cojcolds:



So, now we have the mopologists having cavorted with a Putin apologist, a DezNat sympathizer, and a pair of duplicitous offenders for a word in Peter Pan and Captain Hook. Crazy.

- Doc

I hadn’t seen this before but this isn’t just some t-shirt Smoot bought at Walmart .

The name is that of Smoot’s blog page, Ploni Almoni.

Which means Smoot engineered it himself to look like a pornhub parody.

The bukkake runs deep with this one.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I hadn’t seen this before but this isn’t just some t-shirt Smoot bought at Walmart .

The name is that of Smoot’s blog page, Ploni Almoni.

Which means Smoot engineered it himself to look like a pornhub parody.

The bukkake runs deep with this one.

[Marcus]

Perhaps the good people over at the SCMC ought to talk to the young adjunct professor Stephen O. Smoot, and explain to him that showing up at Sandra Tanner’s bookstore with a posse while wearing a PornHub parody t-shirt isn’t the best look for BYU or the cojcolds:



So, now we have the mopologists having cavorted with a Putin apologist, a DezNat sympathizer, and a pair of duplicitous offenders for a word in Peter Pan and Captain Hook. Crazy.

- Doc

I hadn’t seen this before but this isn’t just some t-shirt Smoot bought at Walmart .

The name is that of Smoot’s blog page, Ploni Almoni.

Which means Smoot engineered it himself to look like a pornhub parody.

The bukkake runs deep with this one.

I did not know this background:

...Ploni Almoni appears in Ruth, as the late Elimelech's relative who should marry Ruth but refuses. Rashi explains ploni to mean covered and hidden, deriving from a word looked at recently in this column - peleh (Ruth 4:1). Almoni comes from ilem, meaning silenced or muted. Ploni Almoni turned away from the historic act of embracing Ruth...

https://www.thejc.com/judaism/all/the-s ... UOenALhZq6

So what is Smoot hiding? What part of himself is silenced and muted? What is he refusing to embrace? Or is this just another coincidence?

[Physics Guy]

Any chance someone else gave Smoot the shirt as a joke that Smoot didn’t get? I’ve heard of PornHub but I didn’t recognize the logo; if someone had given me a shirt like that I might well have blithely worn it to church (where it might have been an interesting inadvertent social experiment, hmm). I try not to seem too out-of-touch but in truth my awareness of popular culture is shallow and I can commit absurd thinks-he’s-being-the-cool-dad gaffes. Perhaps Smoot’s like that, too.

[Moksha]

Perhaps the good people over at the SCMC ought to talk to the young adjunct professor Stephen O. Smoot, and explain to him that showing up at Sandra Tanner’s bookstore with a posse while wearing a PornHub parody t-shirt isn’t the best look for BYU or the cojcolds:
- Doc

Some at the SCMC might applaud this group trying to recreate its most daring adventure of rowdiness at the Tanner bookstore (even if they stood outside to hurl their taunts while Sandra was elsewhere). Although the custom-made PornHub replica shirt might be questionable, at least Smoot refrained from including bukkake on the logo.

The SCMC might also see the wisdom of the Interpreter inching closer to DezNat, in case the current members turn more sharply toward fascism via Trumpian politics.

Jonathan Neville seems to be a likable old guy who is being harassed by a group of ideological thugs. The Maxwell Institute should look into that as the sociological phenomenon of religion gone wild.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Any chance someone else gave Smoot the shirt as a joke that Smoot didn’t get? I’ve heard of PornHub but I didn’t recognize the logo; if someone had given me a shirt like that I might well have blithely worn it to church (where it might have been an interesting inadvertent social experiment, hmm). I try not to seem too out-of-touch but in truth my awareness of popular culture is shallow and I can commit absurd thinks-he’s-being-the-cool-dad gaffes. Perhaps Smoot’s like that, too.

You’re talking about Stephen “bukkake” Smoot, right?

- Doc