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Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:12 am
by Doctor Scratch
A very interesting development:
Louis Midgley wrote:I am, however, pleased that I have managed to have my review of a really excellent book by my friend, John Gee, finally in print. And also to have some of the story of how his excellent book was unpublished by the BYU Administration told with most of the ugly details set out, My essay sets out some of the silly and disgusting things that the current BYU Administration allowed or facilitated when they unpublished Professor Gee's wonderful book entitled Saving Faith: How Families Protect, Sustain, and Encourage Faith, which is a genuinely faith supporting book that was published by the Religious Studies Center at BYU, in cooperation with Deseret Book Company, in 2020.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 6207610302

Wow. This sounds pretty salacious. Has it actually been published, though? I only looked briefly, but was unable to find it at Interpreter…

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:27 am
by Tom
I wonder when the revised edition of Dr. Gee’s book will appear. I believe we’re approaching three years since it was pulled. (It’s still available for purchase through FAIR’s bookstore.)

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:57 am
by drumdude
If it was up to the members of Interpreter, BYU would be the Mormon version of Liberty University.

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:20 am
by Gadianton
Yeah, he does make it sound like it's been published. But then again, we know the apologists have a very low bar for what counts as publishing a paper. It's possible that he typed it out on his favorite manual typewriter and nobody else has read it yet.

If it does make its presence known online, I'll definitely give it a fair review of my own.

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:41 am
by Moksha
This covers some of the backstory: https://religionnews.com/2020/09/08/con ... -john-gee/

As Midgley points out, this was not about dressing up in ancient attire and walking around like a Reformed Egyptian. It was about a book that included much inflammatory misinformation, which as Dr Midgley says, "Should not trouble BYU in the least. If they can countenance apologetics they should have no problem with this book."

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:02 am
by Kishkumen
Looks like more ark-steadying to me. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Sometimes BYU will publish its own faculty’s stuff, sometimes it won’t. It is entirely up to the powers that be to decide. Surely some vanity press with extreme views will publish it.

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:16 am
by Tom
Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:12 am
A very interesting development:
Louis Midgley wrote:I am, however, pleased that I have managed to have my review of a really excellent book by my friend, John Gee, finally in print. And also to have some of the story of how his excellent book was unpublished by the BYU Administration told with most of the ugly details set out, My essay sets out some of the silly and disgusting things that the current BYU Administration allowed or facilitated when they unpublished Professor Gee's wonderful book entitled Saving Faith: How Families Protect, Sustain, and Encourage Faith, which is a genuinely faith supporting book that was published by the Religious Studies Center at BYU, in cooperation with Deseret Book Company, in 2020.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 6207610302

Wow. This sounds pretty salacious. Has it actually been published, though? I only looked briefly, but was unable to find it at Interpreter…
Mosiah 16:6 comes to mind: “….speaking of things to come as though they had already come.” I assume the ugly details will be posted on the Interpreter website in the next few weeks.

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:15 am
by Philo Sofee
Moksha wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:41 am
This covers some of the backstory: https://religionnews.com/2020/09/08/con ... -john-gee/

As Midgley points out, this was not about dressing up in ancient attire and walking around like a Reformed Egyptian. It was about a book that included much inflammatory misinformation, which as Dr Midgley says, "Should not trouble BYU in the least. If they can countenance apologetics they should have no problem with this book."
Lets just face the music, Gee is out of his league on every single subject he writes on...

Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:33 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
I'm just glad Midgley is focusing on something other than Gina Colvin.

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Re: Midgley Announces an Essay on “the silly and disgusting things” that BYU Admin Did to John Gee

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:22 pm
by Doctor Steuss
Other than his PhD is Misanthropic Misology, what would be Midgley's unique qualifications for reviewing the book?