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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:21 pm
It seems to me that rescuing children from sex slavery and human trafficking is the noblest cause in which a human being can be involved.

But for some reason people now hate this Tim Ballard guy, who is the founder of an organization that reportedly does exactly that. What has he done wrong?

Dr. Shades, in the 80s Mormons were known to ask preachers by what authority; or who gave you authority, because we would say Jesus, gave it to Peter, James and John who gave it to Joseph Smith etc.

What would you say if some random dude walked into the first day of a college class and started lecturing and he wasn’t the instructor.

By what authority is local government protecting children in a certain area:

1) the U.S. Constitution that gives States authority that they don’t reserve for themselves; the States, via a legislature pass codes:

here is an easy one:

Google California Welfare and Institution Code Section 300.subdivision a,b,c,d,e, etc.

That’s what law enforcement and welfare social workers work with. They have the authority which is reviewed by a court within a few days of foster care placement. Lawyers are assigned.

On a recent Lynn Packard interview there was a reported raid in San Bernardino by this guys group. San Bernardino has its own police, sheriff’s dept., cps, fbi field stations. Let them do their work.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:01 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:53 pm
And, if recent reports are reliable, he essentially sex traffics his own volunteers for his personal gratification in the process of putting on the show.
Forgive me, are we talking about Tim Ballard or Joseph Smith?
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The Stig wrote:
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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Forgive me, are we talking about Tim Ballard or Joseph Smith?
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^^FTW
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New update on how an LDS psychic helped channel Moroni to locate the children for Tim Ballard.
From Radio Free Mormon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSZT1VMcyCk

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:21 pm
It seems to me that rescuing children from sex slavery and human trafficking is the noblest cause in which a human being can be involved.

But for some reason people now hate this Tim Ballard guy, who is the founder of an organization that reportedly does exactly that. What has he done wrong?
:shock:

I urge you to think about what you're saying and what the real-world practical application of a private charity engaging in sophisticated law enforcement planning and operations would mean for not only our country, but the world.

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If he is in the states, he should call 911 and let the numerous officers responding do their investigation.

If he goes abroad, does he check into the American embassy with his undercover wife, give the name of the child, the address, the allegations, his source of the information, and what he plans to do. My gut feeling is the embassy officers, and maybe others who work for organizations with three letters outside the the USA are going to have a long talk with him.

If he ever was a U.S agent working in the child abuse field, he gave up all his authority to do an investigation when he resigned. What he was doing was extra-legal; not recognized by the courts in a sovereign territory, or another country.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:46 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:21 pm
It seems to me that rescuing children from sex slavery and human trafficking is the noblest cause in which a human being can be involved.

But for some reason people now hate this Tim Ballard guy, who is the founder of an organization that reportedly does exactly that. What has he done wrong?
:shock:

I urge you to think about what you're saying and what the real-world practical application of a private charity engaging in sophisticated law enforcement planning and operations would mean for not only our country, but the world.

- Doc
I don't think most operations include a psychic communicating with a long dead native American. Additionally Tim's rants on social media show his organizational skill sets are severely compromised by emotions and motivated reasoning. I also wonder whether his tenure with the CIA constitutes a rigorous training in military "jumps" into foreign soil. The entire thing stinks from the head down.
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Rivendale wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:46 pm
:shock:

I urge you to think about what you're saying and what the real-world practical application of a private charity engaging in sophisticated law enforcement planning and operations would mean for not only our country, but the world.

- Doc
I don't think most operations include a psychic communicating with a long dead native American. Additionally Tim's rants on social media show his organizational skill sets are severely compromised by emotions and motivated reasoning. I also wonder whether his tenure with the CIA constitutes a rigorous training in military "jumps" into foreign soil. The entire thing stinks from the head down.
I just listened to RFM’s most recent podcast, and… phew… Mormons. I don’t even have the words right now.

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Tim "I gotta have some love" Ballard wrote:Ballard is quoted in the article stating: “There’s no question in my mind that this is the Lord’s work and that we are His hands. This is so important because it’s so important to the Lord... The Atonement heals all. It’s our job in the meantime to serve especially the downtrodden and the suffering, to liberate the captive.”
It's our job, because the Lord is too busy to do it himself, but oh, this is critically important to him! Mind you, there is just nuthin more important or necessary for the Lord to get done right than this, so he stays away and it's always someone else's job. The Lord is, of course, a no-show. Sorry boys, can't make it tonight, but you go right on ahead an git ir done. I'll bless ya mightily, but I just don't have the time or where-with-all to do it myself.
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