Re: “Mentally Troubled” and “Assault”
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:58 pm
Oh God.
More drama from the drama queen.
Spare me.
More drama from the drama queen.
Spare me.
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No. No, no no no, no no no. And NO.And I never claimed “assault.” That’s a convenient sound bite for Kwaku and the Midnight Mormons, but it’s a gross oversimplification of the standard reality half of this planet faces on a regular basis.
I get that what needs to happen to resolve this ridiculousness is for me to speak in a bigger way.
If you really believed that we wouldn’t be getting these self-character-assassination threads anymore.The problem is that I think both sides of this debate are dominated by limited paradigms that have little to do with the actually reality we’re all swimming in. That makes it hard for me to care about the things either side cares about.
The debate was about Mormon women? Oh wait, no it wasn’t.There are too many men talking about too much with too little insight into the lived experiences of 50% of the population.
I thought the debate was about Mormon doctrine. If you believe they won, does that mean you are returning to the Mormon faith?I think the Midnight Mormons win the debate.
Clearly I wasn't specific enough when I suggested you don't endlessly ruminate out loud about past events.Rosebud wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:22 pmRFM, I just listened to you talk about your professional contact whose health failed him. You used the experience to prove that you are “your brother’s keeper,” I assume, because the Midnight Mormons previous arguments about how much they care about the Mormon people were so strong in comparison to your assertions that you can be a critic without taking any responsibility for the harm that comes when people listen to you.
I would assert that you may be your brother’s keeper when your brother promotes a cause you support. You definitely have not been my “keeper.” You’ve helped people harm me more in an effort to support your own agenda.
You will “keep” those it serves you to keep….. even when you know full well they are wrong.
I’m not not on your side. I’m an ex-Mormon. Some might even assume I’m a secularist. I don’t think the brethren are particularly happy about me right now. Whatever. I don’t know that I care much or that it matters much.
But if you want to make a difference, be real. Be honest. Be authentic. Don’t just “keep” the people you think it serves you to “keep,” (whether you’re right about those assumptions or not.)
I'm all for speaking up when things happen, I've done it here multiple times this year myself, but Rosebud, you are way past the stage where the damage to yourself outweighs any benefit.Lem wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:47 pmNo. No, no no no, no no no. And NO.I get that what needs to happen to resolve this ridiculousness is for me to speak in a bigger way.
I think you are within your rights to (privately) reach out to Kwaku and tell him that word in inappropriate to use and that you would like him to stop doing it in public settings. By that I mean DON’T start another thread here, and endlessly ruminate out loud on it yet again. Just do something (adult, responsible and productive) about it.