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Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:47 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
Fox 13 news is reporting that students at Salt Lake Community College are premiering a documentary about the impact of conversion therapy that happened at Brigham Young University in the late 1970s.
Here is a selected quote that is more evidence that is at odds with Dallin Oaks claim that while he was the president of BYU from 1971 through 1980, no such therapy was happening on the campus.
Specifically electroshock therapy that students did volunteer to be a part of, that had a very negative, traumatic effect on them and how it has shaped the rest of their lives afterwards," Leonard explained.
Full story here:
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-new ... u-in-1970s
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:22 am
by slskipper
Be prepared for the church to unleash the hounds of hell.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:08 pm
by Dr. Shades
slskipper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:22 am
Be prepared for the church to unleash the hounds of hell.
I doubt that. The church will just punt it to the Mopologists, just like it always does.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:10 pm
by MetaProf
There is a Mormonism Live episode that covers this whole thing:
https://mormonismlive.org/2021/12/mormo ... hock-hoax/
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:37 pm
by drumdude
Daniel Peterson knows many of the brethren personally and knows they would never lie because they are such upstanding men of great integrity and character.
I trust Dan.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:43 am
by Philo Sofee
drumdude wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:37 pm
Daniel Peterson knows many of the brethren personally and knows they would never lie because they are such upstanding men of great integrity and character.
I trust Dan.
And I trust his spiritual twin, Dallin.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:28 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
Too bad the SEC wasn't more trusting.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 am
by Flemming
drumdude wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:37 pm
Daniel Peterson knows many of the brethren personally and knows they would never lie because they are such upstanding men of great integrity and character.
I trust Dan.
He appears to constantly live in your head, rent free.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:02 pm
by drumdude
Flemming wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 am
drumdude wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:37 pm
Daniel Peterson knows many of the brethren personally and knows they would never lie because they are such upstanding men of great integrity and character.
I trust Dan.
He appears to constantly live in your head, rent free.
And I in yours.
Re: Documumentary on Conversion therapy at BYU makes a liar out of Oaks
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm
by Kishkumen
Why did Oaks deny this? I mean, if it was true, and it was, that conversion therapy happened on his watch, he ought to just acknowledge it and come up with some other way of minimizing the damage (“We had no idea it was so harmful,” etc.). It’s like the Watson letter nonsense. Making stupid crap up and then being caught. Very regrettable. I am not a huge fan of Oaks. In fact, I really don’t like him. He is the most aggressively anti-gay apostle, and so I have a difficult time mustering any sympathy for him, but talk about unforced errors and dumb-effery!