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Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:03 pm
by Philo Sofee
Moksha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:18 pm
Imwashingmypirate wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:46 pm
AHH wait I see what you mean....
Ok so the original apostles, had Jesus as the prophet if you like. I doubt Jesus needed counsellors given that he was Jesus.
The Disciples at that time never fulfilled the role of Board of Directors since they were involved with religion rather than religion acting as a front for a multi-billion dollar business.
Well.... they were in the industry of fishing for men... they probably learning you can tune a guitar, but you can't tunafish.... and so they stayed broke.
Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:13 pm
by Imwashingmypirate
Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:03 pm
Moksha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:18 pm
The Disciples at that time never fulfilled the role of Board of Directors since they were involved with religion rather than religion acting as a front for a multi-billion dollar business.
Well.... they were in the industry of fishing for men... they probably learning you can tune a guitar, but you can't tunafish.... and so they stayed broke.
Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:38 pm
by yellowstone123
Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:03 pm
Moksha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:18 pm
The Disciples at that time never fulfilled the role of Board of Directors since they were involved with religion rather than religion acting as a front for a multi-billion dollar business.
Well.... they were in the industry of fishing for men... they probably learning you can tune a guitar, but you can't tunafish.... and so they stayed broke.
That’s kind of a good point, Philo Sofee, as retired carpenters, plumbers, groundskeepers, etc. should make up the 12 or 15. The groundskeeper would have more ideas as to how the front lawns could look or avoid a front lawn; many could be done with lava rock and different cactus. . . sort of like an environmental rainy day fund. The carpenter may look at temple construction and costs.
Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:54 pm
by Kishkumen
Thanks for using Latin.
That is all.
Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:04 pm
by bill4long
yellowstone123 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:32 pm
I don't believe the first century head of the church who was Peter was known as a Prophet. Prophets' and Prophetess' were part of the Hebrew Bible.
More likely James the brother of Jesus was a head of the Jerusalem assembly. The gentile assemblies were led by Paul (until they abandoned him). The Jerusalem leaders never exercised any authority over the gentile assemblies that Paul established. The Jerusalem gang eventually fizzed out, and Pauline Christianity eventually took hold in the Roman empire. The Mormon "priesthood", with it's "prophets, seers and revelators" as an ordained office and "head of the church" is pure Mormon innovation (that David Whitmer wrote was originated in the mind of Sidney Rigdon.)
Re: Vaticinium ex eventu
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:54 pm
by yellowstone123
bill4long wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:04 pm
yellowstone123 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:32 pm
I don't believe the first century head of the church who was Peter was known as a Prophet. Prophets' and Prophetess' were part of the Hebrew Bible.
More likely James the brother of Jesus was a head of the Jerusalem assembly. The gentile assemblies were led by Paul (until they abandoned him). The Jerusalem leaders never exercised any authority over the gentile assemblies that Paul established. The Jerusalem gang eventually fizzed out, and Pauline Christianity eventually took hold in the Roman empire. The Mormon "priesthood", with it's "prophets, seers and revelators" as an ordained office and "head of the church" is pure Mormon innovation (that David Whitmer wrote was originated in the mind of Sidney Rigdon.)
Wait! What? What have you been reading?