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"Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:42 pm
by Marcus
Gemli posted the title sentence, in one of his final comments at a certain blog. His full post:
Somehow I missed the skewering. Could you kindly reskewer?
It was in response to this conversation:
gemli > moonshine
Pointing out flaws in one's theological story isn't trolling. Every theology--and there are lots of them-- is nonsense, but some are nonsense on steroids.


moonshine > gemli a year ago
So you don't have a response. Are you going to keep bringing up the "untold made-up gods" thing, even though I've skewered it and you have no retort?

That's trolling.

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gemli > moonshine a year ago
Somehow I missed the skewering. Could you kindly reskewer?
I'm posting this because I noticed that someone mentioned they banned gemli, apparently after the blog entry containing the above comments.
..Which is why, after years of it and after it became clear that he was becoming worse in that regard -- refusing to learn, refusing to read, simply repeating his well-worn slogans, which, as he was told many times, were often applicable to mainstream Christian theology but not at all to Latter-day Saint doctrine -- and that he had long since become a rather tiresome parody of himself, I quietly showed him the door...
Wow. I didn't realize gemli had been banned. So, the blog owner banned the one person keeping his comment sections alive?

Gemli's final exchange with the proprietor, which apparently was the last straw:
Mod gemli a year ago
gemli: "Great non-answer! A++!"

It makes absolutely no discernible difference whether we answer you or we don't answer you.

Your rote, repetitious, non-responsive posts continue either way.


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gemli DanielPeterson a year ago
Amen! I'm glad you now know how I feel.


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DanielPeterson Mod gemli a year ago edited
gemli:. "Amen! I'm glad you now know how I feel."

I doubt it. The boredom that we all feel in reading your comments here must be, at most, a mere shadow of the boredom that you feel in writing them.


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gemli DanielPeterson a year ago
I don't think you're bored as much as defensive.

I remember we had a kitten when I was in knee pants, and if we shined a flashlight on the wall he'd swat at the light, which we'd just move out of the way. The poor thing eventually got so frustrated that he couldn't teach that light a lesson that he ignored the light.

There's a moral in there somewhere.
https://disqus.com/by/gemli/comments/
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The Chronicles of Gemli, thread by Gad:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=147693
_Symmachus wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:23 pm
Gad, thank you so much for introducing me to the mighty Gemli with this thread. His comments have made me realize that Sic et Non is not as useless as I thought.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:26 pm
by drumdude
“DCP” wrote:after years of it and after it became clear that he [gemli] was becoming worse in that regard -- refusing to learn, refusing to read, simply repeating his well-worn slogans, which, as he was told many times, were often applicable to mainstream Christian theology but not at all to Latter-day Saint doctrine -- and that he had long since become a rather tiresome parody of himself
Funny, I think this describes the proprietor to a T.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:11 pm
by Rivendale
He killed the traffic to his blog with a click of a mouse. Typical silo behavior.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:40 pm
by Moksha
However, the supernatural side of Dr. Peterson's God mind told him that the fewer comments and views on his blog, the better. So there.

It also aided Dr. Peterson's disposition since obedient acolytes meant he was not forced to mistreat any posters.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:42 pm
by Gadianton
Funny, I was going to quote the same section Drumdude did.

I also didn't realize he had been banned for good. It's incredible that a message board like Sic Et Non demands its members to eventually convert to their beliefs or be banished. Gemli for the apologists and their way of thinking is similar to MG on this board, and our general way of thinking. He's never going to become a rational participant from my perspective, at least, but I wouldn't dream of banning him. He's free to post to his hearts content what he believes and is under no pressure to "learn" from anyone here.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:50 am
by Rivendale
Just because a shot of medicinal molecules can reduce psychotic symptoms doesn't mean that psychosis doesn't have a supernatural component.
That was one of the best everlasting thought stoppers Gemili created to sieze up the entire flock .....the only retort? Strawman? 😆

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:31 pm
by drumdude
“DCP” wrote:Over at the Peterson Obsession Board a couple of months ago, the prolific poster who calls himself Dumb-Dud (or, anyway, something very like that) announced that he had discovered that I’m a relatively decent human being who has friends, and so forth, and that, based on that astonishing insight, he would no longer be devoting so much time and effort to attacking me in the future.

His resolution lasted for approximately five or six hours, and he’s been back at business as usual ever since. Earlier today, he summarized the results of the several years of study that he’s dedicated to me: I refuse to read, I refuse to learn, I merely repeat well-worn and often irrelevant slogans and have become a rather tiresome parody of myself.

At least one other researcher at the Obsession Board has independently performed the same analysis as Dumb-Dud, and has endorsed his conclusions. And it’s simply inconceivable that they’re both wrong. So I have a question for the folks who read this blog with any degree of regularity: What’s wrong with you? How have you been able to endure my repetitive and deliberately uninformed blathering?
On the point about enduring Daniel’s posting… I have to point out that the majority of the comments on SeN these days are John Pack Lambert’s ramblings that he isn’t allowed to post on Wikipedia due to lack of noteworthiness. These ramblings are usually completely unrelated to Dan’s blog entries.

Noel’s posts are regularly attacked for being off topic but John’s ramblings are always allowed to stand. They pad the numbers, I suppose. Add a couple extra dollars to Daniel’s monthly Patheos cheques.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:20 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
drumdude wrote:
Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:31 pm
“DCP” wrote:Over at the Peterson Obsession Board a couple of months ago, the prolific poster who calls himself Dumb-Dud (or, anyway, something very like that) announced that he had discovered that I’m a relatively decent human being who has friends, and so forth, and that, based on that astonishing insight, he would no longer be devoting so much time and effort to attacking me in the future.

His resolution lasted for approximately five or six hours, and he’s been back at business as usual ever since. Earlier today, he summarized the results of the several years of study that he’s dedicated to me: I refuse to read, I refuse to learn, I merely repeat well-worn and often irrelevant slogans and have become a rather tiresome parody of myself.

At least one other researcher at the Obsession Board has independently performed the same analysis as Dumb-Dud, and has endorsed his conclusions. And it’s simply inconceivable that they’re both wrong. So I have a question for the folks who read this blog with any degree of regularity: What’s wrong with you? How have you been able to endure my repetitive and deliberately uninformed blathering?
On the point about enduring Daniel’s posting… I have to point out that the majority of the comments on SeN these days are John Pack Lambert’s ramblings that he isn’t allowed to post on Wikipedia due to lack of noteworthiness. These ramblings are usually completely unrelated to Dan’s blog entries.

Noel’s posts are regularly attacked for being off topic but John’s ramblings are always allowed to stand. They pad the numbers, I suppose. Add a couple extra dollars to Daniel’s monthly Patheos cheques.
You nailed it. DCP really is a tiresome parody of himself.

Since kiwi57 was banned from Patheos for numerous "targeted harassment" violations, John Pack Lambert has done a marvelous job filling in.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:22 pm
by IWMP
Gadianton wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:42 pm
Funny, I was going to quote the same section Drumdude did.

I also didn't realize he had been banned for good. It's incredible that a message board like Sic Et Non demands its members to eventually convert to their beliefs or be banished. Gemli for the apologists and their way of thinking is similar to MG on this board, and our general way of thinking. He's never going to become a rational participant from my perspective, at least, but I wouldn't dream of banning him. He's free to post to his hearts content what he believes and is under no pressure to "learn" from anyone here.
The thing is, without opposing sides there is no discussion, no debate. It's the opposition that allows us to dissect and dig deep. If everyone just agreed, there would be no thinking deeply. The discussion would be finished very quickly. I think one of the great things about being human is that we can discuss, philosophise, debate and push each other to new ideas.

Re: "Could you kindly reskewer?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:25 pm
by IWMP
drumdude wrote:
Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:31 pm
“DCP” wrote:Over at the Peterson Obsession Board a couple of months ago, the prolific poster who calls himself Dumb-Dud (or, anyway, something very like that) announced that he had discovered that I’m a relatively decent human being who has friends, and so forth, and that, based on that astonishing insight, he would no longer be devoting so much time and effort to attacking me in the future.

His resolution lasted for approximately five or six hours, and he’s been back at business as usual ever since. Earlier today, he summarized the results of the several years of study that he’s dedicated to me: I refuse to read, I refuse to learn, I merely repeat well-worn and often irrelevant slogans and have become a rather tiresome parody of myself.

At least one other researcher at the Obsession Board has independently performed the same analysis as Dumb-Dud, and has endorsed his conclusions. And it’s simply inconceivable that they’re both wrong. So I have a question for the folks who read this blog with any degree of regularity: What’s wrong with you? How have you been able to endure my repetitive and deliberately uninformed blathering?
On the point about enduring Daniel’s posting… I have to point out that the majority of the comments on SeN these days are John Pack Lambert’s ramblings that he isn’t allowed to post on Wikipedia due to lack of noteworthiness. These ramblings are usually completely unrelated to Dan’s blog entries.

Noel’s posts are regularly attacked for being off topic but John’s ramblings are always allowed to stand. They pad the numbers, I suppose. Add a couple extra dollars to Daniel’s monthly Patheos cheques.
I think that DCP likes the discussion but too many free thinking comments or comments that go against the church will open him up to judgement in that by allowing them to stay he is allowing church members to see "antimormon" information and opening that door to members thinking. I think a TBM, good standing member of the church would feel the unspoken pressure to do what is right by the church regardless of their interest.

I hope that makes sense.