The Book of Abraham Translated from the Papyrus, by Joseph Smith

[Shulem]

A Translation of some ancient Records that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of Egypt. The writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, called the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus.

Another Book of Abraham thread? All are welcome.

Tell us what YOU think of the Book of Abraham. Are you a believer? Bear your testimony. What's your apologetic reasoning on how you know the Book of Abraham provides an account about the historical birth of ancient Egypt?

Are you a critic? Feel free to slam the Book of Abraham and tell us how you know it can't possibly be true.

[Shulem]

This Book of Abraham needs no defense from me, nor from anyone else. It speaks for itself; it defends itself. By the majesty of its language, by the sublimity of its teachings and by the Spirit that permeates them, it proclaims itself divine.

Ancient Egyptian peoples flourished along the banks of the Nile river many hundreds and even thousands of years before Noah's ark landed on Mount Ararat in 2400 BC as recorded by the Jews in the Bible. The ancient peoples of Upper and Lower Egypt established the First Egyptian Dynasty many hundreds of years before the ark ever settled in Mesopotamia!

The Mormon church has never defended the controversy between scientific Egyptian historicity and the Book of Abraham historical narrative provided by Joseph Smith. To this day, Mormons remain silent on this issue! Members of the church are blissfully ignorant of Joseph Smith's colossal errors about Noah's ark predating the founding of Egypt.

Joseph Smith was caught with his hand in the biblical cookie jar and the Jews were dead wrong about Noah's ark predating ancient Egypt. The Book of Abraham has been proven fraudulent and there is nothing the Church can do about it.

[drumdude]

It defends itself. Just like Trump’s skin being naturally bronze.

[Zosimus]

The Mormon church has never defended the controversy between scientific Egyptian historicity and the Book of Abraham historical narrative provided by Joseph Smith. To this day, Mormons remain silent on this issue! Members of the church are blissfully ignorant of Joseph Smith's colossal errors about Noah's ark predating the founding of Egypt.

The Book of Abraham is mostly historically accurate, for something written in the 1840s. Joseph was simply following historical details he could have picked up from any number of publications in the 1830s, including Charles Anthon's Classical Dictionary, which discusses the formation of Egypt after the flood.

Or he could have learned the same from Luther Bradish, a Palmyra native who had travelled throughout Egypt in the early 1820s. Oddly, Bradish was in Luxor around the same time Antonio Lebolo was there excavating the Book of Abraham papyrii from the Valley of Kings. Bradish knew Lebolo. It's plausible that Lebolo even invited Bradish to explore the crypt he had transformed into his home in Luxor that housed the mummies that would eventually be sold to Joseph Smith by Michael Chandler, who claimed to be a nephew of Lebolo.

Of course, both Bradish and Anthon were also asked to give their opinions on the gold plate characters Joseph copied from the gold plates.

[Fence Sitter]

The Book of Abraham is mostly historically accurate, for something written in the 1840s. Joseph was simply following historical details he could have picked up from any number of publications in the 1830s, including Charles Anthon's Classical Dictionary, which discusses the formation of Egypt after the flood.

Or he could have learned the same from Luther Bradish, a Palmyra native who had travelled throughout Egypt in the early 1820s. Oddly, Bradish was in Luxor around the same time Antonio Lebolo was there excavating the Book of Abraham papyrii from the Valley of Kings. Bradish knew Lebolo. It's plausible that Lebolo even invited Bradish to explore the crypt he had transformed into his home in Luxor that housed the mummies that would eventually be sold to Joseph Smith by Michael Chandler, who claimed to be a nephew of Lebolo.

Of course, both Bradish and Anthon were also asked to give their opinions on the gold plate characters Joseph copied from the gold plates.

By "historically accurate" do you mean Smith simply reproduced the Book of Abraham from information available in his environment about a fictional Biblical character? Or, do you mean he produced an accurate representation of what was known in the 19th century of an actual historical figure named Abraham? Or?

[Kishkumen]

The Book of Abraham is mostly historically accurate, for something written in the 1840s. Joseph was simply following historical details he could have picked up from any number of publications in the 1830s, including Charles Anthon's Classical Dictionary, which discusses the formation of Egypt after the flood.

Or he could have learned the same from Luther Bradish, a Palmyra native who had travelled throughout Egypt in the early 1820s. Oddly, Bradish was in Luxor around the same time Antonio Lebolo was there excavating the Book of Abraham papyrii from the Valley of Kings. Bradish knew Lebolo. It's plausible that Lebolo even invited Bradish to explore the crypt he had transformed into his home in Luxor that housed the mummies that would eventually be sold to Joseph Smith by Michael Chandler, who claimed to be a nephew of Lebolo.

Of course, both Bradish and Anthon were also asked to give their opinions on the gold plate characters Joseph copied from the gold plates.

Bradish probably also saw the Dendera Zodiac, which vaguely resembles the hypocephalus.

[Shulem]

The Book of Abraham is mostly historically accurate, for something written in the 1840s. Joseph was simply following historical details he could have picked up from any number of publications in the 1830s, including Charles Anthon's Classical Dictionary, which discusses the formation of Egypt after the flood.

Joseph Smith gleaned information from the sources available to him, especially Adam Clarke, and let's not forget that he was surrounded by intelligent and well read lieutenants who had a vested interest in assisting Smith's new religion successfully grow while amassing wealth, power, and influence.

But the Christians and the Jews were wrong about how and when ancient Egypt was formed and established along the Nile having its real roots from Africa. The Bible is wrong! Egypt was not founded after the so-called flood wherein Ham's progeny found their way to the wet Delta which land was like a door leading into Africa. It was the other way around! The Africans found their way into the Delta before the Jews conceived the mythical story of Noah's ark which was dated in their chronology to have floated across the expanse of water in 2400 BC.

It's three strikes and you're OUT!

[x] The Jews were wrong!
[x] The Christians were wrong!
[x] The Mormons *are* wrong!

Thank God for modern Egyptology which has uncovered and restored the true historical story of how and when Egypt was first established and founded.

[huckelberry]

A person might propose that Abraham just didn't know all of the details of Egyptian history and wrote just what he knew however that probably still leaves zosomus's comments as more accurate

[Fence Sitter]

So not only did Abraham teach bogus astronomy to the Egyptians, he also made-up history for them. Such a trickster that Abrahamic God is.

[Shulem]

So not only did Abraham teach bogus astronomy to the Egyptians, he also made-up history for them. Such a trickster that Abrahamic God is.

Joseph Smith claimed to channel Abrahamic God while translating Egyptian papyri, two rolls of which he claimed were written by the very hands of Abraham & Joseph, if you can believe it. Smith came on the scene just in time when people were ripe to hear nonsense contained in the chapters of the Book of Abraham and the nonsensical garbage that comprises the explanations of the Facsimiles. But Smith in his arrogance and willingness to hide his deception, ordered the snout and headcloth of Anubis to be hacked out of the lead plate prior to printing Facsimile No. 3. Why? Because people would soon discover that Smith's prior claim of Anubis being a slave in a king's court would be challenged by scholars. Besides, how could Smith be a good Mason and desecrate the image of Anubis?

Today, Mormon scholars have done nothing to honor the memory of Anubis but continue to tow the line and defend Smith's deceptive interpretations even after learning the snout was hacked out after the fact. The apologists remain silent on this point and for good reason. There is nothing the Mormon church can do to promote its Book of Abraham on the world scene because the work is fraudulent and utterly false. Not even God can make it true! The Book of Abraham is false and Joseph Smith was not a true prophet or a translator that could read a dead language. He was a conman! Furthermore, believe me when I say, "Joseph liked young girls, age 14 was ideal."