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Jerry D Grover (Jnr) shoots off some friendly fire in his Interpreter blog style posting...

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In an example of friendly fire, Jerry D Grover (Junior) has taken aim at David Hocking and Rodney Meldrum. His alliteratively titled article 'Mi’kmaq, Meldrum, May, and Mark" is meant as a take down of claims made in Hocking's and Meldrum's "The Annotated Edition of the Book of Mormon". The whole article is worth a read, as are the comments at the end of the article, but here is the abstract...
Abstract: The Annotated Edition of the Book of Mormon, edited by David Hocking and Rod Meldrum, compares Caractors Document glyphs to purported Native American Mi’kmaq glyphs to support the theory that the Book of Mormon took place in the eastern United States. The glyphs used to support the theory are, in fact, taken from the Anthon Transcript document forgery produced by Mark Hofmann.
Grover explains how he ended up attempting this hit piece...
One Saturday, I happened to be browsing Book of Mormon themed books in a used bookstore when I ran across the Annotated Edition of the Book of Mormon.1 The book is edited by David Hocking (Managing Editor) and Rod Meldrum (Associate Editor). It also identifies Jonathan Neville, Boyd J. Tuttle, Rian Nelson, Wayne May, and Amberli Nelson as contributors.2 As I was familiar with Mr. Meldrum’s business promoting the “Heartland” (eastern United States) as the location for Book of Mormon events, I expected that this version of the Book of Mormon would be peppered with various notes promoting the Heartland model. After thumbing through the book my expectations proved correct.
In an example of Grover's Christian charity and good intentions he closes with...
It becomes indisputably obvious where the source of the Annotated Edition glyphs ultimately came from: a Mark Hofmann forgery. Even for the May glyphs that are similar to both the Hofmann forgery and Caractors Document glyphs, a careful examination shows that the Hofmann forgery glyphs are closer in form to the May glyphs than any of the Caractors Document glyphs. This clearly indicates that Wayne May exclusively used the Hofmann forgery glyphs in his comparison of “Nephite Caractors” to Mi’kmaq glyphs.

It is generally accepted that part of Mark Hofmann’s motivation for [Page 127]creating his Anthon Transcript forgery, besides money, was to perpetrate fraud onto The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and the Book of Mormon and thus damage the Church.15 Similarities between some of the Hofmann forgery glyphs and the Caractors Document glyphs were an attempt by Hofmann to add credibility to his forged Anthon Transcript.

It is with some dismay and bewilderment that the editors of the Annotated Edition, now in its third edition, continue to perpetrate and promote Mark Hofmann’s fraudulent legacy of deceit to readers. Mi’kmaq glyphs and Hofmann forgeries provide no evidence for the Book of Mormon or a Heartland geography.
Who needs critics when you've got brothers in the faith like Grover?
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Wow, this is an excellent catch, I Have Questions. How embarrassing for the Heartland-oriented editors of that book.

It is serendipitous that this thread and the one posted by Simon Southerton were both posted the same day: Jeffrey D. Glover eviscerates Hocking and Meldrum for incorporating aspects of a Hofmann forgery, but will he--or any other Mormon--eviscerate Butler and Perego for knowingly making false claims about the effectiveness of autosomal DNA?

Methinks those with the same agenda will magically get a free pass. It's never the inaccuracy of the false claim that's at issue; it's the intellectual allegiance to the author, and nothing else, that matters.
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One correction: Jerry Grover

https://bmslr.org/jerry-d-grover-jr/
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Tom wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2026 10:02 pm
One correction: Jerry Grover

https://bmslr.org/jerry-d-grover-jr/
Thanks Tom.
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Tom wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2026 10:02 pm
One correction: Jerry Grover

https://bmslr.org/jerry-d-grover-jr/
Do you know if Brother Grover joined forces with Jerald Tanner in publicly doubting the authenticity of the Salamander Letter?

As the scripture says: He who was not deceived by Mark Hofmann among you, let him cast the first stone.
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Grover wrote:It is generally accepted that part of Mark Hofmann’s motivation for creating his Anthon Transcript forgery, besides money, was to perpetrate fraud onto The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and the Book of Mormon and thus damage the Church.
Peterson is still letting this happen.

Wow. Just wow. He never learns.
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Gabriel wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2026 10:20 pm
Tom wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2026 10:02 pm
One correction: Jerry Grover

https://bmslr.org/jerry-d-grover-jr/
Do you know if Brother Grover joined forces with Jerald Tanner in publicly doubting the authenticity of the Salamander Letter?

As the scripture says: He who was not deceived by Mark Hofmann among you, let him cast the first stone.
I must confess that I do not know whether Brother Grover, PE, PG, formed an alliance with Mister Tanner. I will say, however, that the population of Mopologists who claim they knew, prior to 1985, that Hofmann’s documents were fraudulent grows by the year.
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To be fair to Jerry, he is the only person since Joseph Smith who has successfully been able to translate reformed Egyptian accurately. And he didn’t need a seer stone to do so, as he explains in his book “ Translation of the “Caractors” Document”
A small scrap of paper entitled "Caractors" that contained characters copied from the plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated has remained an enigma for more than a hundred years. Finally, the characters have been successfully translated. In a book that is the first of its kind, Jerry Grover, a professional civil engineer, geologist, and translator, has been able to crack the code of the "reformed Egyptian." The author's approach is meticulous and scientific. This book is a landmark event in Book of Mormon studies and is a book that must be read by every serious student of the Book of Mormon and of Mesoamerican studies. The author is dedicating all proceeds from the book to additional scientific studies to cast further light on the ancient setting of the Book of Mormon.
The full transcript is available for free here.

It beggers belief that none of the recent Prophets have called this obvious giant of Mormonism to an Apostleship. How did we miss such a giant step in proving the Book of Mormon true? Why hasn’t John Gee leapt all over this, nor the world of Egyptology?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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