Re: Certain people can't ever get it right
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:40 am
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Glad you like my metaphor! I hope that it effectively parallels two dimensions of parts of this thread:
Excepting for the fact that the settings on your viewfinder are out of whack. I suppose I’m from the impressionist school of thought in that we see reality by stepping back and looking at the greater whole. In order to to that first of all we need to step back. Then we set our viewfinder/lens to wide angle so as to gain perspective that we would fail to appreciate at zoom level. The various ‘pixels’ of the whole blend in to show a greater vista of meaning and purpose than merely zooming in and observing isolated parts.Chap wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:59 amGlad you like my metaphor! I hope that it effectively parallels two dimensions of parts of this thread:
1. The ox gains nothing from the activities of the lute player, and carries on chewing grass and from time to time emitting methane from both ends :: The intended reader of (say) Gadianton's elegant, logical and restrained post gains nothing from it, and carries on churning out utterances of his own very distinctive kind.
2. The lute player, on the other hand, has the pleasure of exercising his skill, and hence is motivated to continue playing, despite the lack of appreciation from the ox :: Gadianton has the aesthetic satisfaction of exercising his philosophical skills, and hence is motivated to continue posting, despite the lack of any effect on their intended reader.
Now that's what I call an effective metaphor: a description of a situation in context A whose patterns map in a precise and enlightening way onto a superficially completely different situation in context B.
I'd be interested to know what other posters take this to mean.mentalgymnast wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:24 pmI suppose I’m from the impressionist school of thought in that we see reality by stepping back and looking at the greater whole. In order to to that first of all we need to step back. Then we set our viewfinder/lens to wide angle so as to gain perspective that we would fail to appreciate at zoom level. The various ‘pixels’ of the whole blend in to show a greater vista of meaning and purpose than merely zooming in and observing isolated parts.
Brilliant!Chap wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:59 amGlad you like my metaphor! I hope that it effectively parallels two dimensions of parts of this thread:
1. The ox gains nothing from the activities of the lute player, and carries on chewing grass and from time to time emitting methane from both ends :: The intended reader of (say) Gadianton's elegant, logical and restrained post gains nothing from it, and carries on churning out utterances of his own very distinctive kind.
2. The lute player, on the other hand, has the pleasure of exercising his skill, and hence is motivated to continue playing, despite the lack of appreciation from the ox :: Gadianton has the aesthetic satisfaction of exercising his philosophical skills, and hence is motivated to continue posting, despite the lack of any effect on their intended reader.
Now that's what I call an effective metaphor: a description of a situation in context A whose patterns map in a precise and enlightening way onto a superficially completely different situation in context B.
I think that’s pretty common, bringing in thoughts and ideas that we come across as we read. Especially as we my see some relevance. Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, ideas trigger further thinking and application.
Sounds like I’m being ‘lumped in’ to a pigeon hole again. C’mon Lemming. Just like most human beings, including yourself, we are multifaceted in the ways we approach various aspects of our lives. Yes, some folks might be more hyper religious or hyper non religious than others.
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Some people construct metaphors that actually do model the thing their users are trying to talk about, and some don't. Your ''round/flat' metaphor is an example of one that doesn't function well, at least not as you apply it.mentalgymnast wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pmSome folks respond to metaphorical thinking and application differently than others.