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“We’re gradually reopening the temples,” Elder Bednar said, “but temple construction has not stopped. …

“Obviously there were some construction disruptions because of the pandemic, but relatively few of the temples are behind schedule. I find that to be miraculous. All over the world the construction of temples has moved forward in a remarkable way.

“So, yes, there have been some real challenges,” concluded Elder Bednar, “but ‘no unhallowed hand can stop this work from progressing.’ ”

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2 ... ons-203295

So having a few temples behind schedule now counts as a miracle, and when he says no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing...he seems to have forgotten, the Covid pandemic did just that.

Bednar is a proud and haughty man. His arrogant character is ever obvious. He thinks he's better than everyone else. He thinks his Church is better than everyone else. Never mind the idea that other churches or businesses are also able to keep up with their tasks and construction projects. Mormons are not the only people on God's green earth that are able to be industrious and work hard to get a job done.

The so-called Miraculous Mormon Miracles have gotten out of hand. It's beyond ridiculous. It reminds me of the little boy crying "wolf", when there was no wolf. That's pretty much what Mormons are doing when they cry "miracle" when there is no real miracle at hand.

Silly, Mormons. Grow up. They are like children -- spiritually stunted and childish.

You have to have faith to not construct temples.

Shulem wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:16 pm

Silly, Mormons. Grow up. They are like children -- spiritually stunted and childish.

If finding miracles makes his flock feel better, what is wrong with a pastor pretending about some of them?

Imagine you are making a long trek through Missouri and your tired congregation says, "Give us a miracle, Pastor".
What is wrong with the pastor pointing to a rock outcropping and saying, "You see that group of rocks over there? That's where the Garden of Eden was and where Adam blessed the first sacrament cups o' water."?

Just harmless pure and delightsome prevarications.

Fred_VII wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:02 am

You have to have faith to not construct temples.

Bednar pretty much said the same thing about not being cured by priesthood blessings.

Speaking of miracles, on Dr. Midgley's latest cognitive test, he answered "Person, Gemli, Dan, Camera, Gemli".

IHAQ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:31 am

“We’re gradually reopening the temples,” Elder Bednar said, “but temple construction has not stopped. …

“Obviously there were some construction disruptions because of the pandemic, but relatively few of the temples are behind schedule. I find that to be miraculous. All over the world the construction of temples has moved forward in a remarkable way.

“So, yes, there have been some real challenges,” concluded Elder Bednar, “but ‘no unhallowed hand can stop this work from progressing.’ ”

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2 ... ons-203295

So having a few temples behind schedule now counts as a miracle, and when he says no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing...he seems to have forgotten, the Covid pandemic did just that.

"If temples are falling behind schedule, change the schedule". Bednar's way of maintaining the miracle.

IHAQ
So having a few temples behind schedule now counts as a miracle, and when he says no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing...he seems to have forgotten, the Covid pandemic did just that.

It almost appears that no matter what, they can manipulate reality in order for miracles to appear. In my opinion, that certainly undercuts the entire premise of miracles. This is not how they are portrayed in the scriptures is it? I mean if by a little manipulation one can then claim a miracle, it is up to the creativity of the person maintaining the miracle, not the reality of there having been or being a miracle. It's too bad, because it undercuts wanting to believe in actual miracles. It also entirely undercuts prophetic credibility if this is the only way to try and miraculously pull a miracle out of the hat. If there is nothing there, then there is nothing there.

Is it miraculous that construction in general, being an outdoor occupation, has boomed during the pandemic?

In declaring temple construction with only a few delays to be a miracle, Bednar’s standard has sunk to new lows in my opinion. Because by association, he has unwittingly declared the construction of Indian casinos during 2020 to be miraculous.

https://www.pe.com/2020/12/29/what-casi ... ng-in-2021

Agua Caliente Casino Cathedral City

One casino expansion project that wasn’t particularly impacted by the virus was Agua Caliente Casino Cathedral City, the third casino property owned by the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians.

The project was approved and broke ground in 2019 and officials said they hoped to complete to the project in fall of 2020. That ended up happening, with the casino opening just before Thanksgiving.

No unhallowed hand indeed, or the Lord says “The House Always Wins.”

Philo Sofee wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:42 pm

It almost appears that no matter what, they can manipulate reality in order for miracles to appear. In my opinion, that certainly undercuts the entire premise of miracles. This is not how they are portrayed in the scriptures is it? I mean if by a little manipulation one can then claim a miracle, it is up to the creativity of the person maintaining the miracle, not the reality of there having been or being a miracle. It's too bad, because it undercuts wanting to believe in actual miracles. It also entirely undercuts prophetic credibility if this is the only way to try and miraculously pull a miracle out of the hat. If there is nothing there, then there is nothing there.

IF the Church really had a miracle to report and broadcast to the Latter-day Saints over the airwaves, THAT would be a miracle! But the Church doesn't experience real miracles or the kind one reads about in scripture. The Church today loves to appropriate everyday life experiences as modern day miracles. THOSE miracles are just as good as miracles in the Bible. By doing this they keep the word "miracle" active in doctrinal teaching and gifts allotted by the Spirit. But really, the General Authorities are little more than Flim Flam Men who are fooling a great many people who seem to need that kind of religious experience in order to satisfy their life's desire. It's rather silly, but that is the situation. Mormons have evolved into a mentally retarded class of people. Mormons today in general are handicap. They are retards. Stoopid.