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FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:18 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
It sounds like FAIR has been scolded by the Brethren for the whole Kwaku/TITS video debacle. From the Salt Lake Tribune: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/03 ... dopts-new/


“FairMormon adopts a new name and urges a kinder approach in defending the LDS Church. FAIR now will stand for “Faithful Answers”


By David Noyce
| March 21, 2021, 11:15 a.m.
It’s fair to say that FAIR, an independent group of defenders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has gone through some significant changes in its quarter century of existence — if not in its mission, at least in its moniker.

In 1997, the nonprofit was born as the Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research to explain and proclaim the policies, practices and preachings of the faith when they come under fire from critics.

The term “apologetic” — which meant to “reason” and “argue,” not to “apologize” — proved confusing, however, so, 16 years later, FAIR morphed into FairMormon to more clearly communicate the group’s purpose.

“We thought of ourselves as ‘Mormon,’” recalls President Scott Gordon, “and we want the facts to be covered ‘FAIRly.’”

Now, with church President Russell M. Nelson urging scholars, media and members to cease using “Mormon” and “LDS” when referring to the denomination and its adherents, it was time for another name change.

“Being faithful members, we wanted to comply, but we struggled to come up with another name that everyone liked. We really struggled,” Gordon writes in a Saturday newsletter and blog post. “Remember, we are the same group that came up with the first name that nobody understood.”

That debate has been settled. FAIR will now be known as FAIR.

“Yes, that sounds a lot like our old name ... but this new name is completely different,” Gordon writes. “The old name was an acronym for the Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research. The new FAIR name stands for ‘Faithful Answers, Informed Response.’”

The group also is dropping “Mormon” from its website URL. FAIR now can be found at www.fairlatterdaysaints.org. More and more institutions, departments, organizations and websites inside and outside the church have heeded Nelson’s call and altered their names.

When the new FAIR provides “faithful answers” and an “informed response,” Gordon adds, it wants to do so in a Christlike manner.

That means “avoiding personal attacks or derogatory language” against critics, he says. “This does not mean we won’t point out faulty reasoning and misleading claims, or boldly defend our doctrine. ... We are not stepping away from fact-checking, or defending the church. Indeed, we embrace it fully. We just want to do it in the way that we believe the Savior would approve.”

FAIR drew some flak recently for enlisting a handful of Brigham Young University actors and writers to produce satirical videos that targeted the writings of a particular church detractor. Some saw the snarky, mocking tone as out of place; others viewed the videos as a novel, humorous way to reach younger Latter-day Saints.

The YouTube videos can be found via links on the FAIR website.

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Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:47 pm
by malkie
So, up till now, have they not been do it in a way that they believe the Savior would approve"?

Too bad nobody ever pointed that out to them.

Dodo FAIR

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:55 pm
by Shulem
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What's the King's name in Facsimile No. 3?

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:21 pm
by Shulem
malkie wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:47 pm
So, up till now, have they not been do it in a way that they believe the Savior would approve"?

Too bad nobody ever pointed that out to them.

Oh it's so delicious when you read between the lines of what these arrogant Mormon fools are really saying:

FAIR wrote:We thought of ourselves as ‘Mormon,’

Being a Mormon is a victory for Satan. Shame on you, Scotty-baby-boy Gordon! You dumb ass.

FAIR wrote:Being faithful members, we wanted to comply, but we struggled to come up with another name

Did you pray to Mormon Jesus for another name? What's the new name? :lol:

FAIR wrote:That debate has been settled.

The SPIRIT of the Lord has spoken?

FAIR wrote:The group also is dropping “Mormon” from its website URL

Satan is going to lose lose a victory? What will the devil do now?

FAIR wrote:avoiding personal attacks or derogatory language

Because FAIR is guilty, guilty, guilty, of rubbing its little factory with all kinds of personal attacks and derogatory language because everyone knows FAIR is not Christian -- they are Mormons!

FAIR wrote:We just want to do it in the way that we believe the Savior would approve

Too little, too late. You FAIR Mormons aren't Christians so quit trying to act like you are. YOU Scotty-boy belong to a cult.


:twisted:


FAIR = Mormons. Always has, always will.

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:56 am
by Dr Moore
Will the TITS videos be coming down then?

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:08 am
by Philo Sofee
Dr Moore wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:56 am
Will the TITS videos be coming down then?
If Mormonism had any kind of revelatory intelligence whatsoever they would demand all apologetics internet sites be simply stopped and taken down, and let the prophets show the way... Of course, this would be the demise of the church, but still, what can you do when you are between a rock solid granite Mountain and 500,000 ton of steel crushing the life out of you? Mormonism is so unfortunately out of touch with any kind of actual reality in our lives that it has forced itself to be in the hands of mere apologists of all ridiculous stripes hoping for the best. Sure they can kind of control what is said, but for how long? It is always the prophets and apostles themselves who shoot themselves in the foot with another idiot revelation of literally ridiculously no relevance to reality of what is actually happening in the world. And then they look to apologists to get them out of the hot water with as much possible gaslighting as they think they can get away with, which no one falls for, even their own members. It's quite truly one of the singular most pathetic things of Mormonism since the year 2000.

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:09 am
by Dr LOD
Dr Moore wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:56 am
Will the TITS videos be coming down then?
I haven't seen much more of that lately it must have gone "TITS" up.

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:51 am
by Shulem
Dr LOD wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:09 am
Dr Moore wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:56 am
Will the TITS videos be coming down then?
I haven't seen much more of that lately it must have gone "TITS" up.

TITS and FARMS have crashed and burned. A smoldering heap of garbage. And Quacko is a terrible liability for the Church. We haven't seen the end of him. He's an attention whore and you can bet he'll be back on the air making all kinds of trouble.

:lol:


Do you all think Radio Free Mormon will change the name of his podcast in order to conform with the new name change under President NelSatan's management? I hardly think so.

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:01 pm
by consiglieri
Dr Moore wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:56 am
Will the TITS videos be coming down then?
It looks like they have been.

Re: FAIR Mormon Adopts A New Name And A More Gentle Approach To Apologetics

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:12 pm
by Dr Exiled
In hindsight, the TITS videos had to come down. Christianity is supposed to be about turning the other cheek, or so goes the story. Attacking the supposed "attackers" and succumbing to the eye for an eye approach, while feeling good, goes too much against the narrative. The church gives money to FAIR and cannot be sullied by the amateurish attack pieces the TITS videos presented.