McCain's speach

[_beastie]

Both Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden directly associated Senator John McCain to George W. Bush.

Are you actually saying that being associated with Bush is as bad as being accused of being friendly to terrorists??????

Well, then McCain pretty much screwed himself when he bragged about agreeing with Bush 90% of the time.

[_Brackite]

Both Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden directly associated Senator John McCain to George W. Bush.

Are you actually saying that being associated with Bush is as bad as being accused of being friendly to terrorists??????

Well, then McCain pretty much screwed himself when he bragged about agreeing with Bush 90% of the time.

I was kind of kidding with you, Beastie!. :)

[_beastie]

I was kind of kidding with you, Beastie!. :)

Whew! You had me worried for a minute there!!!

[_Sethbag]

Let's see... From the right we had constant scare tactics that Obama was somehow not one of us, not really American, not pro-American, that he was a terrorist, that he hangs around with terrorists, etc. That one douchebag Republican Congresswoman, Bachmann, actually stated on national TV that Obama was Anti-American, and that she was truly frightened of him having anti-American views.

I got robocalls out the wazoo the last couple of weeks in the election, and several times I picked up the phone and the robot on the other end started trying to scare me about Obama, insinuating he had a hidden agenda to undermine America, etc.

It's indisputable that this crap from the Republican Right was pervasive, and way, way over the top.

The worst thing I heard from the Obama/Biden camp was that a vote for McCain was like a vote for Bush all over again. Oh, the horror! And from the Right's point of view, that should have been something like a compliment, shouldn't it? Oh, you think it's horrible too? Oops.

And the "attacks" against Palin were simple observations that she was completely unqualified to assume the VP's job. Palin opened herself up to these observations when she opened her mouth to Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric and demonstrated that she hasn't been paying attention, and doesn't know anything. All she was good for was looking nice, and attacking Obama as a potential terrorist. These aren't backhanded insinuations - they are observations of her performance on the national stage. It's not like she really does know this stuff but the cat got her tongue - she simply doesn't know anything.

[_beastie]

I got robocalls out the wazoo the last couple of weeks in the election, and several times I picked up the phone and the robot on the other end started trying to scare me about Obama, insinuating he had a hidden agenda to undermine America, etc.

I got these nasty robocalls, along with nasty flyers, almost every single freakin' day for the two weeks prior to the election.

And now the folks who swallowed this crap are supposed to smile and support Obama? Guess they missed all the winks and nods behind the attacks.

"Yeah, we're telling you Obama is friends with terrorists and has evil motives, but in case he wins, remember we were just kiddin' and you should support him as your president!"

[_Sethbag]

I saw McCain try to correct people at some rallies, like the lady who said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab, and the guy who said he was afraid to have a child and raise it in a world where Obama is President. McCain corrected these two people, and said that Obama is a decent family man, and that the man had no reason to be afraid of an Obama Presidency.

But these people didn't have their heads filled with this crap in a vacuum. It was the whole Right Wing apparatus, the really stupid "Obama is a muslim" email chains, the scare stories, the whole "hangs around with Terrorists" stuff, etc. that got so many of McCain's supporters believing all kinds of stupid stuff like this.

That's why I applaud McCain for correcting these two, but I condemn him for selling out to, and giving carte blanche to the Right Wing apparatus that made these kinds of ignorant beliefs so pervasive. I honestly don't believe that these kinds of scurrilous attacks are in McCain's nature, but he sold out to the Republican apparatus in order to get elected, and the far Right Wing couldn't help themselves. I can only wish McCain would have spoken up sooner, and more loudly, correcting the scare tactics and ignorance about Obama's race and religion and so forth.

[_Brackite]

Senator John McCain has been a Great Senator of the Great State of Arizona, and John McCain is an American Hero. And, I am still very glad and am very happy, that I did get to support and to Vote for John McCain for President, During This Presidential General Election. Senator John McCain did Win, Within His home State of Arizona.

[_beastie]

I saw McCain try to correct people at some rallies, like the lady who said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab, and the guy who said he was afraid to have a child and raise it in a world where Obama is President. McCain corrected these two people, and said that Obama is a decent family man, and that the man had no reason to be afraid of an Obama Presidency.

But these people didn't have their heads filled with this crap in a vacuum. It was the whole Right Wing apparatus, the really stupid "Obama is a muslim" email chains, the scare stories, the whole "hangs around with Terrorists" stuff, etc. that got so many of McCain's supporters believing all kinds of stupid stuff like this.

It wasn't just the Right Wing apparatus - that was a large part of my point to AS. It was Palin herself that also encouraged these crazy ideas - she was the one who started saying Obama "pals around with terrorists". McCain also indirectly encouraged it by saying Obama hadn't been fully honest about his relationship with Ayers.

in my opinion, that is what has been so damaging about this particular election cycle. There are always ugly groups on the sidelines who spread vicious rumors about the other, and it's hard to know if these were sanctioned by the candidates or just winked and nodded. But when the candidates themselves openly start repeating the same slander, it absolutely sanctions the slander in the eyes of their followers.

So, yeah, sure, it was nice to see McCain, now and then, actually try to correct some of this garbage. Maybe his old self was peeking out in those cases - you know, the old self that objected so vociferously to these type of attacks when he was the victim of the Bush campaign. But he was playing both sides of the street, in my opinion, and that's why, although I applaud his actual concession speech, believe that he is also to blame for the booing crowd. He allowed Palin to tell them Obama pals around with terrorists. Although I don't recall him actually using that phrase himself, he defended her doing so by saying Obama hadn't been upfront about his relationships with Ayers. So while I think his speech was great, and am optimistic about him working with Obama, I'm still going to hold him accountable for the monster he created.

That's why I applaud McCain for correcting these two, but I condemn him for selling out to, and giving carte blanche to the Right Wing apparatus that made these kinds of ignorant beliefs so pervasive. I honestly don't believe that these kinds of scurrilous attacks are in McCain's nature, but he sold out to the Republican apparatus in order to get elected, and the far Right Wing couldn't help themselves. I can only wish McCain would have spoken up sooner, and more loudly, correcting the scare tactics and ignorance about Obama's race and religion and so forth.

I don't believe in the devil, but McCain sold his soul to the devil in this campaign. I think he was so wounded by losing to Bush, of all people, that he was determined to win at all costs this time. He learned from Bush that the gutter campaigning can and does work at times. I think that's why he went to the dark side. But there were too many serious issues for it to work this time. It's all been somewhat tragic in a Shakespearean sense, in my opinion.

[_beastie]

by the way, the worst attacks on Palin are probably yet to come... from republicans.

I was right. Here's more, and I have a feeling it won't be the last of it:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliab ... alin7.html

The McCain-Palin campaign is over, but Wardrobe-gate lives on. More embarrassing details have emerged about Sarah Palin's infamous shopping sprees -- including even more designer duds, plus sprayed-on tans and fancy underwear.

On top of the $150,000 first outlined in Federal Election Commission filings, Palin spent "tens of thousands of dollars" on additional clothing, makeup and jewelry for herself and her family, including $40,000 in luxury goods for her husband, Todd, our colleague Michael Shear reports. The campaign was charged for silk boxer shorts, spray tanners and 13 suitcases to carry all the designer clothes, according to two GOP insiders.

"The shopping continued after the convention in Minneapolis, it continued all around the country," one source said. "She was still receiving shipments of custom-designed underpinnings up to her 'Saturday Night Live' performance" in October. Sources said expenses were put on the personal credit cards of low-level Palin staffers and discovered when they asked party officials for reimbursement.

Newsweek reports that top McCain aides were stunned by the huge tab, especially after adviser Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three outfits for the convention and three for the campaign trail, with a budget of $25,000; instead, the nominee racked up six-figure bills at high-end department stores. "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," a McCain aide sniffed to the magazine.

Palin has always contended that she didn't ask for the extravagant makeover. The campaign previously said the used clothing would be auctioned off for charity; the L.A. Times reports that a Republican National Committee lawyer is headed to Alaska to inventory and retrieve the items still in her possession.

Palin even raised eyebrows for what she didn't wear: In St. Paul during the convention, McCain senior staffers Steve Schmidt and Mark Salter arrived at her hotel room for a briefing and found her wearing nothing but a towel, with a second one wrapped around her wet hair, Newsweek reports. "I'll be just a minute," she said, ordering them to chat with the First Dude while they waited.

[_Mercury]

McCain gave a great speech.

And I don't know who the Republicans will get in four years, but they better be freakin' ROCKSTAR.

Here is who they are vetting:



Its from idiocracy you uncultured swine!