Is socialism really that bad?

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_Moniker
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Re: Is socialism really that bad?

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It takes me about a glass of wine until I'm giddy then pass out shortly. We're both cheap dates. :)

Okay, abut the luck aspect of it, I agree, completely. There is no such thing as starting out on equal footing and I bristle against sentiments that people can really just lift themselves up by the "bootstraps".

However, for those that have wealth and are told they can not give it to their descendants they are being dictated as to what they can and can not do with their property. Of course the recipients of the wealth did not create the wealth or opportunities that come with it.

About trades: My ex used to speak about the wages in California vs. the southern states. No doubt that many that work certain trade jobs can make a very good living in some areas.
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Re: Is socialism really that bad?

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When the fury of the fourth reich rises again, we will make Somalia bloom.

Moniker wrote:
ajax18 wrote:The fact that the United States is the most captalist nation in the world is extremly depressing. We need to carve out another part of this world and build another nation. Maybe we'll learn our lesson about bringing in cheap labor and letting socialist leak inside its borders.



You can always head to that utopia of free market economy known as Somalia. :)

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Scottie, socialism is evil, did you not get the memo?

Hally mentioned the invisible hand which I thought was widely known to only operate perfectly when there is not a discrepancy in known information. I just do not believe that when individuals (corporations) operate for their own well being that the end result is necessary the betterment of all.

I don't know, honestly, what should be done, yet, my intuitions on the subject of welfare in our country are as such: We have individuals that work for meager wages and we enjoy their contributions to our society (and they DO contribute if you get your oil changed, shop at Wal-Mart, have your home painted, etc...) -- with the understanding that there are hard working individuals that struggle in our society I think it is important to ensure that they have a certain standard of living. I don't think there is any perfect solution and I don't hold out hope there is one. I just am not comfortable having an underclass in our society and pretending that we don't need them or that we don't use their services. They are our fellow Americans and as such I think ethically they should have help attaining a way of life that some of us take for granted.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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