Zimmerman's Pointless Trial

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Re: Zimmerman's Pointless Trial

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beastie wrote:I admit I didn't count them all, but there are 47 pages of documented calls.


If you look at the dates and times on the calls, there appear to be multiple entries for a single call. So 46 is probably right.
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cinepro wrote:
beastie wrote:I admit I didn't count them all, but there are 47 pages of documented calls.


If you look at the dates and times on the calls, there appear to be multiple entries for a single call. So 46 is probably right.


Maybe. If you look at some of the complaints, he really looks nuts. He called the cops to complain about servers at the clubhouse???

This reminds me of one of the witness statements:

The witness says that Zimmerman would have never messed with Trayvon if he was a big guy. He mentioned that their job hired a new guy who had been in the military, and George Never bothered that guy. He says that George Zimmerman was fired because he called the company hotline excessively. He had a history of filing complaints against managers and how things were run in the store. He was making these complaints to Human Resources. After Zimmerman was fired, the managers told him that HR said the guy was nothing but trouble and to get rid of him. He said that Zimmerman would be extremely professional to your face. He says that Zimmerman is a very convincing guy, and the witness said that Zimmerman’s rebuttal to the managers calling him in about the witness’ complaint made him almost doubt himself–as if to say, perhaps he had misunderstood Zimmerman.


http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/people/ ... rman-case/
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krose wrote:
Droopy wrote:Clearly, from all eyewitness accounts we now have and the nature of the forensic evidence, Trayvon had clear and obvious dominance of Zimmerman from the outset, and was intent on doing real damage.

Let's say you and I meet in an alley one evening. You are not armed. I am, but you don't know that yet. I call you a rude name and make fun of your outfit, your intelligence, your mother, and your religion. Being provoked, you hit me in the face, and even though I try to fight back, your impressive fighting skills are clearly overwhelming.

Since I am losing the fight, do I now have the moral right to pull out my gun and put a bullet in your heart? I now know that I could get away with doing so legally, but am I morally justified in killing you because you are beating me up and "doing real damage" (broken nose, black eye, maybe even a broken rib)?

Ah, it appears Brother Droops has left the building. I was genuinely curious as to what his response would be to this question. I guess I'm left to provide my own answer.

So no, I do not have the moral right to kill my opponent in a fight because he is winning. It doesn't even matter who started it. That is an unacceptable escalation, no matter what laws ALEC has convinced the state to pass.
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I don't fault the jurors. Everyone could tell the defense was better. The defense successfully put Trayvon on trial, and the prosecution didn't adequately deal with that. There were other things that the prosecutor let slide, in my opinion. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, but I think they should have built the case for manslaughter, and they almost solely focused on murder.


The defense in the Jodi Arias trial also did their best to put her murder victim on trial.
However, Jodi Arias was still found guilty of 1st murder in that case.
The Prosecution in this case clearly overcharged George Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder.
The Jury of the Zimmerman trial came out with the right verdict according to the instructions they were given.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3 ... legal.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... t/2516065/
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Brackite wrote: The Jury of the Zimmerman trial came out with the right verdict according to the instructions they were given.

And the instructions the judge was required to give them changed substantially as a result of Florida's new law encouraging people to shoot first instead of trying to get out of a fracas.
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krose wrote:
Brackite wrote: The Jury of the Zimmerman trial came out with the right verdict according to the instructions they were given.

And the instructions the judge was required to give them changed substantially as a result of Florida's new law encouraging people to shoot first instead of trying to get out of a fracas.


Well, then the People of Florida need to contact their State lawmakers to change that law there.
However, it is too late to criminally go after Zimmerman since he has already been found not guilty.
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