Trump's Acceptance Speech: Did the Liberals Win?
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The anti-Muslim stuff has been scrubbed from his website. I will take any good news I can at this point.
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just me wrote:The anti-Muslim stuff has been scrubbed from his website. I will take any good news I can at this point.
It sounds like Trump (yes I am aware you can only trust his word as far as you can throw him) had kind of a "dog catching the squirrel moment". I believe deep down he and his team did not expect to be in this situation and they may now be running the contingency plan prepared on the odd chance he actually won. Perhaps the softer tone is indicative of a future less harsh than we imagined. Only time will tell.
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I'm voting for Evans Williams, the poor man's Jack Daniels.
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Water Dog wrote:just me wrote:The anti-Muslim stuff has been scrubbed from his website. I will take any good news I can at this point.
There was never any "anti-Muslim" stuff to begin with. All he ever suggested was a moratorium on immigration from certain parts of the world. Common sense.
I wonder why anti-Islam attacks are on the rise since Tuesday. No. I don't wonder why.
He did not state "certain parts of the world" he said Muslims. If you wanna try to justify that as somehow not anti-Muslim that's on you.
A statement calling for ban on Muslims from entering America has been removed from US president-elect Donald Trump’s campaign website.
The team managing Trump’s campaign have purportedly removed the page which featured a statement, in which then Republican candidate said on 7 December, 2015. “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”
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moksha wrote:A Republican Congress will not approval that spending. Trump will be covered because after all "he tried". He will be able to blame those establishment politcians who blocked his vision to make America great again.
I don't know.
Trump has already shown that many Republicans will quickly and easily abandon core "Republican" values for the sake of winning an election. (Not saying Democrats are different.) So, assuming that most Democrats in Congress will vote for such a spending package, it's not that far of a stretch to imagine enough Trump Republicans going along with it too.
In this regard, I think the elected officials who have the most to fear from Trump and his supporters are Republicans, whose constituency now very well may be Trump supporters.
Paul Ryan might object, but he's on thin ice already.
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toon wrote:moksha wrote:A Republican Congress will not approval that spending. Trump will be covered because after all "he tried". He will be able to blame those establishment politcians who blocked his vision to make America great again.
I don't know.
Trump has already shown that many Republicans will quickly and easily abandon core "Republican" values for the sake of winning an election. (Not saying Democrats are different.) So, assuming that most Democrats in Congress will vote for such a spending package, it's not that far of a stretch to imagine enough Trump Republicans going along with it too.
In this regard, I think the elected officials who have the most to fear from Trump and his supporters are Republicans, whose constituency now very well may be Trump supporters.
Paul Ryan might object, but he's on thin ice already.
The house won't for a couple of reasons. The first is the Hastert rule, which the house GOP has broken only to avoid imminent government shutdown. The Hastert rule is that no proposed legislation will get a vote unless the speaker know that it can pass with only republican votes. That rule has blocked republicans who would join with democrats to pass legislation from doing so. They never get the chance because there is never a vote.
The second is the sequester. No spending bill can pass without an equal spending cut. Trump isn't proposing to cut anything to fund his spending.
Ryan may have cause to fear Trump, but McConnell doesn't. And he's clearly signaled that new big spending isn't happening.
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There is no reason to suppose there is any correspondence with Trump's plans and what he'll actually do. Probably number 1 on his agenda is reduce the tax breaks for the super rich, followed by hookers and blow.
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just me wrote:I wonder why anti-Islam attacks are on the rise since Tuesday.
So is that a one-day trend? How did they compile and turn around those stats so quickly.
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Res Ipsa wrote:The house won't for a couple of reasons. The first is the Hastert rule, which the house GOP has broken only to avoid imminent government shutdown. The Hastert rule is that no proposed legislation will get a vote unless the speaker know that it can pass with only republican votes. That rule has blocked republicans who would join with democrats to pass legislation from doing so. They never get the chance because there is never a vote.
The second is the sequester. No spending bill can pass without an equal spending cut. Trump isn't proposing to cut anything to fund his spending.
Ryan may have cause to fear Trump, but McConnell doesn't. And he's clearly signaled that new big spending isn't happening.
The Hastert rule has been broken a lot more often than that. Hastert himself went against it 13 times during his speakership. Hastert himself has said it's not a rule.
Boehner has broken the rule too, including Hurricane Sandy relief and the Violence Against Women Act, neither of which was to avoid an imminent government shutdown.
Also, was Hastert as Speaker ever presented with the question of legislation that could that would have been signed into law by a Republican president, notwithstanding the opposition of a majority of House Republicans? Is Ryan really going to tell Trump to “F” off just because a Trump proposal needs some minority votes in order to make it through the House?
I also don't see sequestration as an issue. It was only in place as a compromise between a Republican controlled House and a Democratic President.
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Water Dog wrote:Bases in places like Japan, Korea, Germany, all gone, or, they'll be forking over cash to pay for our protection services.
That's a good thing, of course. . . right?
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