What is going on?

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Markk wrote:
EAllusion wrote:It is becoming quite clear that their is a rash of bigoted provocations, hate crimes, and outright murderous threats by hateful people being carried out in the wake of Trump's victory. While there have been hoaxes, there appears to be a very real wave of this stuff. The perpetrators seem emboldened by the fact that he won. And while they do not represent anywhere near a majority of Trump voters, they are a loud minority.

Paul Ryan condemned it today and insisted that Donald Trump agrees with him, but President elect Trump won't say a word about it. He's too busy having a twitter-fight over nuclear policy wherein he lies about his previous comments.

This is very bad. I can't fathom any presidential candidate going back my entire lifetime not stepping up and condemning this to bring some sanity. Clinton encouraging cooperation and an open mind in her concession speech is what normal politicians do. What Paul Ryan just said is what normal politicians do. Why can't Trump speak out on this? Is this stochastic terrorism? Too much pay-back loyalty to the wrong people? General obliviousness? I have no idea.



What are these hate crimes and murderous threats? I see on TV violence from the left, burning flags and head of Trump...what am I missing in your thread?

Are you saying Trump is suppose to speak out against the violence against him, or is there hate crimes going on by Trump supporters?


:eek:

You're missing a lot, apparently.

Women have been assaulted in the name of Trump. People of Color on college campuses have been terrorized. Swastika's have been spray painted in several cities. Children are taunting their peers with anti-immigrant and racist jeers.

And Trump stays silent. The silence is deafening.
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Markk wrote:

What are these hate crimes and murderous threats? I see on TV violence from the left, burning flags and head of Trump...what am I missing in your thread?

Are you saying Trump is suppose to speak out against the violence against him, or is there hate crimes going on by Trump supporters?


Are you kidding me? I'm referring to what the Republican House majority leader was condemning on TV today.
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On top of that, journalists who have been critical of, or even just reported truth unfavorable to, Trump have been getting a major uptick in harassment and death threats. Especially if they are minorities. Twitter-nazis - probably a combination of bots, real nazis, and trolls, are an epidemic at the moment. Some journalists clearly are getting scared, which is the point.

Trump could very easily say, "Don't do that" and it would quell it. He's not, so you have to wonder why.
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Doctor heal thyself

why no call from the Democrat leaders about the violence, hate speech, and property destruction coming from the losers of this election?
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Aaaand he just called for it to stop. So that's good.
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subgenius wrote:Doctor heal thyself

why no call from the Democrat leaders about the violence, hate speech, and property destruction coming from the losers of this election?
Democrat leaders did caution to act with respect and caution. However, you are inaptly comparing the two different things as if they were the same.
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EAllusion wrote:Aaaand he just called for it to stop. So that's good.

Oh boy. And it turns out CBS had tape of that for 2 days. That should be a fireable offense for somebody.
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I don't think Trump is really prepared for the physical reality of being President of the United States. There are many news reports saying that he is asking his staff about only going to Washington a day or two and spending the rest of the time in Trump Tower.

This is what it looks like in front of Trump Tower:

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Drumpf Dump trucks full of sand to protect him from a blast. If he lives there most of the time it will become the demonstration capital of Manhattan. Not only Donald Trump, but all of the residents of Trump Tower will be prisoners.

The Daily Mail reports that Wealthy Trump Tower residents are 'planning on moving out' after being frisked and asked to show ID amid heightened security.

Between the meetings, the security of comings and goings, not only of Trump but his family and all the high security visitors he will have, let alone the White House Staff, it will become a living hell for the other tenants in Trump Tower.

If there were a way to make a hedge fund betting against the value of a condominium in Trump Tower, it would probably be a good short to medium term investment.

But if you remember, Trump used to try to schedule a lot of his campaign trips so he could fly back to Trump Tower. He's very attached to the place. He doesn't want to move.

Donald Trump, the people's president. On the top floor of a golden tower surrounded by dump trucks full of sand, while people protest on the street and the tenants move out.

The White House will be vacant most of the time. What an appropriate metaphor.
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MeDotOrg wrote:I don't think Trump is really prepared for the physical reality of being President of the United States. There are many news reports saying that he is asking his staff about only going to Washington a day or two and spending the rest of the time in Trump Tower.


I'm going to say, "not gonna happen" to this. TT is right there on 5th Ave. Too much going on, on a daily basis. So, not gonna happen.
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