Whither the GOP?

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Re: Whither the GOP?

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MeDotOrg wrote:I'll be shocked, absolutely shocked, if Trump goes after entitlements.


He's already gone after Medicaid. That promise was lit on fire almost immediately.
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Water Dog wrote:Stopped reading at "David Duke"


Then why bother posting in this thread??
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Maxine Waters wrote:
You didn't answer the question.


No, I don't think slavery was great and neither does Roy Moore.


Well, that's not exactly what he said. He said the last time our country was great was during the time we had slavery.

Do you agree that was the last time it was great?
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Just as long as than damn blacks don't get anything MAJAX is fine with it.
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Here's the thing. Post-modernists just believe everything is power. Everything is a social construct (I know it's popular to believe that only SJW's believe in social constructs, but believe you me Bannon and Breitbart are manifestations of this idea). I believe these guys see the world as a landscape of conflict between groups vying for whatever, probably resources. When Bannon says something to the effect that the system is corrupt and he wants to tear it all down, it's because he sees the natural stratification of organizations as merely the top dominating the bottom through power.

There's no... Hrm... Philosophy of authority or competence. There is only a philosophy of power. It helps them justify the use of it under any circumstances whatsoever. So. Everything is a micro-aggression. Because everything is power. You'll note both the Left and Right on this board often slander one another as being snowflakes, and that's because they just regard each other in terms of power, threat, and domination.

It's weird, but it's our reality.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Here's the thing. Post-modernists just believe everything is power. Everything is a social construct ... Everything is a micro-aggression. Because everything is power. You'll note both the Left and Right on this board often slander one another as being snowflakes, and that's because they just regard each other in terms of power, threat, and domination.

It's weird, but it's our reality.

- Doc


I'm not quite sure whether you are proposing that we try taking a post-modernist view of certain aspects of the political situation, or whether you are saying that the people you are talking about are consciously (or unconsciously?) post-modernists, hence the political situation.

I suspect the latter, but I'd just like to be sure.
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Re: Whither the GOP?

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It's the latter. I definitely view Bannon as a post-modernist. That's the only way I can really wrap my head around what he's doing since he doesn't seem to believe in anything except the consolidation of power. I could be wrong. I mentioned it before, but I can't seem to find anything resembling a manifesto written by Bannon. THAT would be interesting, for sure.

Anyway. The GOP has certainly demonstrated that it isn't interested in its moral platform, and that it's just a facade for, I guess, the US corporatocracy.

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Welp. Bannon is in Alabama campaigning for Moore. It is what it is.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Bannon isn't some deep thinker. He's not an intellectual. He's a hack propagandist with a wealthy patron who fell into a position of power through a combination of luck and finding a market niche' appealing to bigots. He has all the ideological sophistication of a stereotypical alt-righter he tends to represent. That includes all the movements' aspirations and contradictions, which is mostly a mish-mash authoritarian and bigoted subcultures married to economic ideas at home in 1930's Germany. I think its a disservice to real intellectuals to elevate a person who is basically a literate Stormfront poster just because fortune favored him.

All politics is power and it gets easy (and sloppy) to confuse advancing some agenda with an obsession with power. All political movements need to think about power if they want to translate ideas into reality. There is a niche' movement on the hard left that is deeply influenced by Foucault, but there's zero reason to think this has informed Bannon's thinking, if it can be called that, in a serious way. He's just the smartest idiot in the room.
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