Can the IVF program be a problem?

[hauslern]

There has been discussion in the US over the ceasing of the IVF program in, I think, Alabama. There was a program on Australian TV on our public-owned network the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Program). They found there have been problems with the program with many donors having health issues. For example, several women had embryos from the same sperm donor. Some then had similar health issues. Then what was suppose to happen to the frozen surplus embryos? Would destroying them be considered an external abortion? Is it a life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQHXI3gapGM

Life began in the test tube?

[Some Schmo]

Life begins inside the testicles and ovaries. Neither dead sperm nor dead eggs can spark conception.

If you take the pro-birth arguments to their logical (absurd) conclusion, we have to start talking about outlawing masturbation.

At the very least, if women have to be forever tied to a conception, then legally, so should the sperm donor. Of course, no pro-birther wants to inconvenience men; just the women need to be told what to do, apparently.

[IWMP]

No disposing of frozen eggs and sperm is not abortion in my opinion. But I'd think they'd need permission to do so.

If they are injected together and then frozen, I still wouldn't consider it abortion. There are many times women have fertilisation but then the fertilised egg doesn't implant in the uterus for whatever reason and then the egg is released in a period. Hormones begin when the egg is fertilised but I would think a pregnancy does not begin until the fertilised egg implants into the uterus and begins to grow a yolk and what not. I wouldn't consider it abortion until there was tissue (not cells) within the uterus that is abnormal to a normal cycle. I personally believe that ethically, when the fetus grows a heart that beats that this is the first sign of "human" life. Would we consider it ethical to take antibiotics when bacteria was living in us, are we murderous for cleaning our house, brushing our teeth?

Everyone will have a different threshold of where abortion is wrong.

Weird. I'm cooking pizza. I always ask Alexa to set a timer when I cook because I lose track of time. Just said set an alarm for 15 minutes. She just said your pizza timer is up.

[Dr. Shades]

Hormones begin when the egg is fertilised but I would think a pregnancy does not begin until the fertilised egg implants into the uterus and begins to grow a yolk and what not.

Human fetuses grow yolks??

[IWMP]

Hormones begin when the egg is fertilised but I would think a pregnancy does not begin until the fertilised egg implants into the uterus and begins to grow a yolk and what not.

Human fetuses grow yolks??

Yeah. See below.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK5 ... olk%20sac.