2024 Election Campaign MEGATHREAD

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Moksha wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Did the Supreme Court pardon the January 6th insurrectionists with a 6-3 decision?

Between the newly energized Trump, the Supreme Court makeup, and a MAGA Congress, the US is screwed.
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Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:56 pm
No.
You are right. The LA Times reports:
While Friday’s ruling wipes out the felony obstruction charge against some of the insurrectionists, it does not free them from all charges.
But Speaker Johnson did say this was a positive win for Republicans on the news clip I listened to.
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Moksha wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:06 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
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No.
You are right. The LA Times reports:
While Friday’s ruling wipes out the felony obstruction charge against some of the insurrectionists, it does not free them from all charges.
But Speaker Johnson did say this was a positive win for Republicans on the news clip I listened to.
As a barometer, Jackson voted with the majority and Barrett wrote the dissent. No clean ideological split.

The Speaker should be getting appropriations bills passed rather than mouthing off about court opinions he likely hasn’t read.

Compare and contrast with the Chevron Doctrine case. That one was based on the plain language of a statute passed by Congress. In the obstruction case, the majority ignored the plain language of a statute. The only consistency was the Court taking power from both of the other branches. This is the most activist court I have seen.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:08 pm
This is the most activist court I have seen.
I remember the term "activist court" would have Utah Republicans seeing red when they fumed over the Brown v. Board of Education decision. It was a demonic charge back then and now it is a win for Republicans. I think a young Dallin Oaks may have written a practice brief in favor of the Topeka Board of Education.
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Just a reminder, since the Right is claiming Biden is cognitively impaired, Trump said in March 2022 that we should mark our warplanes with Chinese flags, bomb the crap out of Russia, and then they’ll fight each other.

Please explain to me how that isn’t immediately disqualifying him as a candidate for you?

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The Biden-Harris campaign listed out 50 lies Trump spoke on stage from the debate. They’re listed in the link below:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-tea ... ate-stage/

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This new official-acts immunity now ‘lies about like a loaded weapon’ for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation.

Sotomayor continued:

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... on-updates

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Moksha wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:39 pm
This new official-acts immunity now ‘lies about like a loaded weapon’ for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation.

Sotomayor continued:

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... on-updates

The Trump Green Light Decision
You have got to be damned kidding me. This is probably the single biggest step toward fascism the US has ever made.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:46 pm
You have got to be damned kidding me. This is probably the single biggest step toward fascism the US has ever made.

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Once reelected, Trump can pardon himself of any crimes and can begin imprisoning his foes.
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