JD Vance, Boomorality and Catholicism.

[yellowstone123]

Paul VanderKlay: a guy that I have watched on YouTube over the last few years. A Christian Reformed Pastor in Northern California.
It seems he is mostly interested in modern Christianity and how it interacts with culture, but also has a vast knowledge of historical Christianity. Politics don't really interest him as thoughts attributed Christianity and Culture do as one can see in all his other podcasts. Today he does talk about current politics and politics and religion 100 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QniNX-2K4F0

Paul VanderKlay recent podcast about JD Vance and his conversion to the Catholic Church. Mormons and Catholics are mentioned throughout the one-hour broadcast.

He talks about Vance's early life and his life with Evangelical church but like many left because it didn't appeal to him. It was in Law School at Yale that he encountered Mormons and Catholics. He thought maybe he could be successful and embrace faith like these two groups did.

Why did Trump become a Republican and what type of Republican would he be?

Democrats traditionally have been inner city and labor

Republicans have been elite and conservative.

Middle Class and Striver Class. Vance would be in the Striver class.

He has been studying about the Catholic Church, especially during WW2. Mussolini and the King of Italy and the Pope.

Catholic leadership 100 years ago thought democracy was a Kabbalist conspiracy by the Protestants, Jews and Masons.

The appeal of fascism 100 years ago: a strong power to the Catholic church. They want their old power back.

Hitler and Mussolini telling the Pope that they are treating the Jews just like the Catholic Church has treated them.

Boomorality? embraced by Biden and Pelosi - Catholics in good standing but it is dying out.

Trump got his inspiration from Norman Vincent Peel's The Power of Positive Thinking. Trump will sell you a Bible but doesn't live by it.

The Democratic Party is so different today than the Party of the 1960s.

The Republic Party is so different today than - than the Party was before Trump.

Throughout the podcast when he thinks of Trump he laughs. I'm sure Paul VanderKlay is like Sam Harris who just thinks he's an uncle who has these crazy views he expresses at the dinner table during a yearly Thanksgiving meal.

As an afterthought to me, VanderKlay's little clips about pronatalism and Boomorality had me watching them again and again to try to figure out what their message was.

[huckelberry]

Yellowstone, I watched your link. It was a bit of a meandering rumination wondering about what JD Vance might be about. I was puzzled as to Vanderklay's starting point so watched much of a discussion he had about his denomination. He is a minister in Christian Reformed Church, a traditional conservative church. I would gather he has mixed feelings about what is going on in EV circles and politics.

Reading your post I was wondering what in the world is Boomorality. That puzzle is why I sat through the rather long discussion. I finally realized that he meant that after ww2 people in the west shared a view that Nazi was bad so could use that as a shared moral standard. Good was what was not Nazi. My first thought was the obvious one that there still was a lot of variety and disagreement amongst boomers despite this shared observation.One could say it meant different things to different people. I think the divisions we see now are same divisions visible in say 1970. In the years around then a few times people offered threats to shoot though fortunately nobody actually shot at me.

Perhaps Mr Vanderklay is wonder how far the Boomorality assumption has faded. How far along the road to thinking maybe antidemocratic beliefs have become ok. He looks at Catholic views realizing there is a wide spread of thought. Not all American Catholics are happy with the Pope and his somewhat liberal views. JD Vance speaks from what sounds like a pretty conservative Catholic view. Is that deeply held and how conservative?

[huckelberry]

yellowstone, i searched for these and did not find them. ?

As an afterthought to me, VanderKlay's little clips about pronatalism and Boomorality had me watching them again and again to try to figure out what their message was.

[Morley]

Paul VanderKlay: a guy that I have watched on YouTube over the last few years. A Christian Reformed Pastor in Northern California.
It seems he is mostly interested in modern Christianity and how it interacts with culture, but also has a vast knowledge of historical Christianity. Politics don't really interest him as thoughts attributed Christianity and Culture do as one can see in all his other podcasts. Today he does talk about current politics and politics and religion 100 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QniNX-2K4F0

Paul VanderKlay recent podcast about JD Vance and his conversion to the Catholic Church. Mormons and Catholics are mentioned throughout the one-hour broadcast.

He talks about Vance's early life and his life with Evangelical church but like many left because it didn't appeal to him. It was in Law School at Yale that he encountered Mormons and Catholics. He thought maybe he could be successful and embrace faith like these two groups did.

Why did Trump become a Republican and what type of Republican would he be?

Democrats traditionally have been inner city and labor

Republicans have been elite and conservative.

Middle Class and Striver Class. Vance would be in the Striver class.

He has been studying about the Catholic Church, especially during WW2. Mussolini and the King of Italy and the Pope.

Catholic leadership 100 years ago thought democracy was a Kabbalist conspiracy by the Protestants, Jews and Masons.

The appeal of fascism 100 years ago: a strong power to the Catholic church. They want their old power back.

Hitler and Mussolini telling the Pope that they are treating the Jews just like the Catholic Church has treated them.

Boomorality? embraced by Biden and Pelosi - Catholics in good standing but it is dying out.

Trump got his inspiration from Norman Vincent Peel's The Power of Positive Thinking. Trump will sell you a Bible but doesn't live by it.

The Democratic Party is so different today than the Party of the 1960s.

The Republic Party is so different today than - than the Party was before Trump.

Throughout the podcast when he thinks of Trump he laughs. I'm sure Paul VanderKlay is like Sam Harris who just thinks he's an uncle who has these crazy views he expresses at the dinner table during a yearly Thanksgiving meal.

As an afterthought to me, VanderKlay's little clips about pronatalism and Boomorality had me watching them again and again to try to figure out what their message was.

Yellowstone:

Maybe I'm missing something here. Why should I watch Paul VanderKlay? To my ignorant eyes and ears, he seems like just some random dude with a Youtube channel. What in his accomplishments, education, or experience is there to recommend him? Asking for a friend.

[huckelberry]

Yellowstone:

Maybe I'm missing something here. Why should I watch Paul VanderKlay? To my ignorant eyes and ears, he seems like just some random dude with a Youtube channel. What in his accomplishments, education, or experience is there to recommend him? Asking for a friend.

HI Morley, having taken the time to sit throught the discussion in the link I looked a little further concerning your question. He is a minister Christian Reformed church a traditional conservative group with connection to Calvin College.

I found the discussion a bit slow and would not really recommend it unless the subject matter particularly interest one. Ok if it does.

[yellowstone123]

Yellowstone:

Maybe I'm missing something here. Why should I watch Paul VanderKlay? To my ignorant eyes and ears, he seems like just some random dude with a Youtube channel. What in his accomplishments, education, or experience is there to recommend him? Asking for a friend.

HI Morley, having taken the time to sit throught the discussion in the link I looked a little further concerning your question. He is a minister Christian Reformed church a traditional conservative group with connection to Calvin College.

I found the discussion a bit slow and would not really recommend it unless the subject matter particularly interest one. Ok if it does.

I can see that. thank you for your thoughts, Huckelberry. I appreciate them.

[yellowstone123]

Paul VanderKlay: a guy that I have watched on YouTube over the last few years. A Christian Reformed Pastor in Northern California.
It seems he is mostly interested in modern Christianity and how it interacts with culture, but also has a vast knowledge of historical Christianity. Politics don't really interest him as thoughts attributed Christianity and Culture do as one can see in all his other podcasts. Today he does talk about current politics and politics and religion 100 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QniNX-2K4F0

Paul VanderKlay recent podcast about JD Vance and his conversion to the Catholic Church. Mormons and Catholics are mentioned throughout the one-hour broadcast.

He talks about Vance's early life and his life with Evangelical church but like many left because it didn't appeal to him. It was in Law School at Yale that he encountered Mormons and Catholics. He thought maybe he could be successful and embrace faith like these two groups did.

Why did Trump become a Republican and what type of Republican would he be?

Democrats traditionally have been inner city and labor

Republicans have been elite and conservative.

Middle Class and Striver Class. Vance would be in the Striver class.

He has been studying about the Catholic Church, especially during WW2. Mussolini and the King of Italy and the Pope.

Catholic leadership 100 years ago thought democracy was a Kabbalist conspiracy by the Protestants, Jews and Masons.

The appeal of fascism 100 years ago: a strong power to the Catholic church. They want their old power back.

Hitler and Mussolini telling the Pope that they are treating the Jews just like the Catholic Church has treated them.

Boomorality? embraced by Biden and Pelosi - Catholics in good standing but it is dying out.

Trump got his inspiration from Norman Vincent Peel's The Power of Positive Thinking. Trump will sell you a Bible but doesn't live by it.

The Democratic Party is so different today than the Party of the 1960s.

The Republic Party is so different today than - than the Party was before Trump.

Throughout the podcast when he thinks of Trump he laughs. I'm sure Paul VanderKlay is like Sam Harris who just thinks he's an uncle who has these crazy views he expresses at the dinner table during a yearly Thanksgiving meal.

As an afterthought to me, VanderKlay's little clips about pronatalism and Boomorality had me watching them again and again to try to figure out what their message was.

Yellowstone:

Maybe I'm missing something here. Why should I watch Paul VanderKlay? To my ignorant eyes and ears, he seems like just some random dude with a Youtube channel. What in his accomplishments, education, or experience is there to recommend him? Asking for a friend.

Thanks, Morley. I like some of the things he says. I thought the thing about J.D Vance were interesting. But I would say on all broadcasts that a person will know pretty quickly if it's something they might like or not. It clicks or it doesn't; if not, definitely find something more interesting. He did lose me for a while when he referred to other people's Youtube posts.

[Morley]

Thanks, Morley. I like some of the things he says. I thought the thing about J.D Vance were interesting. But I would say on all broadcasts that a person will know pretty quickly if it's something they might like or not. It clicks or it doesn't; if not, definitely find something more interesting. He did lose me for a while when he referred to other people's Youtube posts.

Okay. Thanks. And thanks for sharing. When you recommended VanderKlay, I thought he must be some person of significance. Like Huck, I researched the guy and couldn't find anything, so I wondered if I was missing something.

It's probably not a great personal proclivity, but I'm slow to invest much time in some regular dude's podcast or Youtube opinion.