Defining Progressivism

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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:58 pm
It is cute how HoH has diagnosed the cause of Trump’s victory in ways that really don’t make sense. People voted for Trump in the same wave of economic dissatisfaction that impacted elections in many other western countries. The pattern is very clear, but Hound can’t let go of his obsession with woke and Progressivism. Hound wants a bogeyman to help excuse and prop up Trump.
Hound needs to distract from actual issues by hyping his bogeymen.

The recent (April 5 - April 8) YouGov/Economist poll shows a drop in Trump’s approval rating among most age groups, with his rating with young adults dropping significantly, from +5 to -29.

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One factor likely driving this is highlighted in the YMRI/YouGov Release Poll of Young Men Voters & Views on Presidential Race from last year, which noted that inflation was the most important issue to young men.

Hound needs to force a focus on ‘wokeism’ in a hope to pull attention away from Trump’s failure to address the economic needs of Americans. Hound may need to rethink his direction. The half-life of fretting over transgender things is rapidly approaching, for everyone.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:19 pm
Alright, I believe this is an opportune moment to pause and highlight some facts that will aid everyone in recalling why progressivism is detrimental not only to the Democratic Party but also to the nation and the globe.

It's important to recognize that progressivism is fundamentally socialism in disguise. Here are the facts! In 2024, DEI and the extreme progressive ideology were prominent on the ballot, while Donald Trump stood in opposition, proclaiming his intent to dismantle DEI and woke culture in America. What was the outcome of the vote? Considering the progressives and their compassion for minorities, one might assume they would have predominantly supported the Democrats rather than the white supremacist known as Trump, wouldn't you agree? Here is the comparison of voter support for Trump between 2024 and 2016.

In 2016 Trump got 51% of the white women vote and increased to 53% in 2024
In 2016 Trump got 18% of the black men vote and increased to 24% in 2024
In 2016 Trump got 32% of the Latina men vote and increased to 47% in 2024
In 2016 Trump got 29% of the Latina women vote and increased to 36% in 2024
In 2016 Trump got 37% of the youth vote and increased to 46% in 2024

What insights can we draw from these percentages? We learn that progressivism is detrimental, and even those whom DEI is intended to assist are increasingly opposed to it as they discover its negative impact on society. DEI is no longer relevant. Wokeism has reached its end, and it is my hope that progressives will understand this and form their own party, where they can fully embrace their socialist beliefs to their heart's content.
The fact that Trump has managed to delude that many people into voting for him only makes the situation all the more tragic! And, as others have pointed out, the main issues why they decided to vote as they did were due to mistaken or exaggerated concerns about inflation and the economy, not about progressivism and White Supremacism. This is puzzling to me, because our economy during the end of Biden's Presidency, according to most economist authorities, was the envy of the world and projected to do well, before Trump took over. Since Trump's presidency, that optimism about our economic future changed rapidly to pessimism due to Trump's chaotic machinations. And I still maintain that anti-woke is a euphemism for bigotry.
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James Carville essentially echoed everything I have been discussing
Not so sure about that Hound. I watch a few minutes of James Carville here and there and in general agree with him. I find him to be night and day from your Internet persona. He's recently expressed all the fears that Kishkumen has expressed in regard to constitutional crisis, and he's also suggested that democrats capitalize on the present economic crisis as a way to appeal to republicans.

Well, Bernie and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are doing just that, I'm not sure if that's what Carville has in mind, but it's being done. I also know that you are against these efforts, while at the same time you think Trump's tariffs are the envy of Democrats and that DOGE is a huge success that Democrats should have thought of first.

The culture war in terms of DEI etc isn't something many participants here advance of their own accord, but rather get sucked into when folks like you advance the topic nonstop with errors that beg for correction even from a person who just has an interest in basic logic rather than who is seriously concerned about DEI.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:20 pm
I am truly delighted by how much I have been able to teach you in such a brief span of time.

You are right, individuals across the globe are unhappy with progressive socialists who view globalism as a suitable substitute for freedom of thought. Once more, Kishkumen, you find yourself on the incorrect side of history.

However, I believe you want to act according to your principles on the board, yet you feel constrained by the fear of being labeled a Nazi or white supremacist. It's quite intriguing how militant progressivism operates, isn't it?
Once more? When was the last time?

Well, I can say this, it is interesting to watch you announce how comfortable you are being the kind of person others would label a Nazi or white supremacist. Wonder why that is!
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