#1 NYT best seller "Original Sin"

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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Do you have an account for the WSJ? If so I'll link it?
Yeah.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-reckoning ... cle_inline

I read it when it first came out. It was not quite what your video of Sky News presented it to be.
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Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Sky news is reputable and said to be fair, and it actually shows what folks outside the US are seeing and thinking.
No it isn't. Sky News Australia is where Rupert Murdoch cut his teeth. And Murdoch has an uneven record, at best.

In August 2018, Sky News was heavily criticised for providing a platform to Blair Cottrell, leader of the far-right, Neo-Nazi organisation United Patriots Front in a one-to-one discussion about immigration on The Adam Giles Show. Sky News presenter Laura Jayes and ABC journalist David Speers were among those critical (both on-air and off-air) of his appearance on the programme due to the fact that he has expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler and claimed to have manipulated women "using violence and terror."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_ ... 5D%5B86%5D
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Morley wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:55 pm
Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Do you have an account for the WSJ? If so I'll link it?
Yeah.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-reckoning ... cle_inline

I read it when it first came out. It was not quite what your video of Sky News presented it to be.
Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Sky news is reputable and said to be fair, and it actually shows what folks outside the US are seeing and thinking.
No it isn't. Sky News Australia is where Rupert Murdoch cut his teeth. And Murdoch has an uneven record, at best.

In August 2018, Sky News was heavily criticised for providing a platform to Blair Cottrell, leader of the far-right, Neo-Nazi organisation United Patriots Front in a one-to-one discussion about immigration on The Adam Giles Show. Sky News presenter Laura Jayes and ABC journalist David Speers were among those critical (both on-air and off-air) of his appearance on the programme due to the fact that he has expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler and claimed to have manipulated women "using violence and terror."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_ ... 5D%5B86%5D
Sure it is. The article goes much deeper if you want to be honest. The WSJ which you said you were good with often criticized Biden's mental decline, such as here.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-whit ... TatA%3D%3D

..."The White House operated this way even as the president and his aides pressed forward with his re-election bid—which unraveled spectacularly after his halting performance in a June debate with Donald Trump made his mental acuity an insurmountable issue. Vice President Kamala Harris replaced him on the Democratic ticket and was decisively defeated by Trump in a shortened campaign—leaving Democrats to debate whether their chances were undercut by Biden’s refusal to yield earlier. ...

In regard to Sky News and your link. You can find a negative about any paper, big time. Sky News overall is respected. If you watched the link I gave you you can put the pieces together despite the outlet. It is not owned by Murdoch, or Fox, it is owned by comcast. It has an annual revenue of over 100 billion a year, and is reputable.

Try to have a little objectivity and critical thought. Again we can actually go through the link I gave you and test it, instead of picking a snippet out of a wiki article.
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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:40 pm
canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 9:41 pm
Are those the same Democrat insiders that were running the country for Biden?

You seem to trust their story, so you should have no problem with the results of their decisions, right? ; )
Lol, why do you always use the blink emoji?
Silly Markk. That’s a ‘wink’, emoji, not a ‘blink’ emoji. I have buckets of these things that I grabbed at a MySpace surplus liquidation sale a decade back, so I use them freely.

But, seriously - I use them to indicate I’m being half-serious. : )

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I use the Lol, way too much, in that I generally laugh a lot. Right or wrong, I like to laugh and have a good time....do you blink at people after you give your opinions to them? Do you give the ok sign when you blink at folks?
I generally end up looking like I’m having a spastic attack. Sometimes I have to stop people from dialing 911 when I go into one of my uncontrolled fits of winking. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

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Some of those folks may have been running the auto pen, Trapper and Thompson said there were 5 people by committee that pulled the strings for Joe. Based on everything I hope we find out the truth.

Where did I say I trust what they are saying?
If you trust Tapper’s account and others from the book, then - by extension - you are trusting the people who were within the inner circle of the Great Biden Senile Genius Sleepy Master Criminal Deception Operation. As they were ‘in’ on the plan, they become the ones helping to implement it. Unless they just collated the necessary work for the day and paid some college students on Task Rabbit to handle it all, right?
I have laid out pretty clear that there are not many options, Fox and other conservative outlets consistently held that Biden was suffering with mental decline.
As you’ve noted before, they were saying that in 2018. This has always been a standard talking point used against old politicians. Don’t pretend that you don’t know how that game is played. As it was, it took 7 years to become widely apparent, and he somehow managed to run against Trump in - as you claim - a state of severe cognitive decline yet win decisively anyway. He went on to make enough public appearances over the years afterwards to consistently demonstrate more apparent competency than his defeated opponent.
You don't have a lot of choices here. But I am open to hear your opinion.
I have all of the choices available, because aside from the debate performance, there doesn’t seem to be any other incident or action that can be pointed to that was critically problematic.

I’d assume that the book would be describing things that needed to be handled ‘by committee’ that were different from how Presidents usually have staff handle things … by committee. That’s how things normally get done. I certainly hope that you’re not going to tell me that you believe Trump is actually penning all of the Executive Orders and proclamations on the White House website. Or has even written better than a paragraph of any of them. If you do, I have a couple of crates of wink emojis that I’d like to sell you. ; ) <— product sample
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Markk wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:34 am
Sure it is. The article goes much deeper if you want to be honest. The WSJ which you said you were good with often criticized Bidens mental decline, such as here.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-whit ... TatA%3D%3D

..."The White House operated this way even as the president and his aides pressed forward with his re-election bid—which unraveled spectacularly after his halting performance in a June debate with Donald Trump made his mental acuity an insurmountable issue. Vice President Kamala Harris replaced him on the Democratic ticket and was decisively defeated by Trump in a shortened campaign—leaving Democrats to debate whether their chances were undercut by Biden’s refusal to yield earlier. ...
I don't think that this is the article Sky Australia was referring to. You should watch your videos a little more closely.

This isn't even the June 2024 article. This one came along a month-and-a-half after the election.
Markk wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:34 am
In regard to Sky News and your link. You can find a negative about any paper, big time.
No, I can't. Not to that degree. All networks don't give voice to a man like Blair Connell.

Blair Cottrell (born November 1989) is an Australian far-right extremist and neo-Nazi.[1][2][3] He was a founding member of the United Patriots Front (UPF) and the Lads Society. He has been convicted and served prison time for stalking, arson, illegal sales of steroids, and burglary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blair_Cottrell
Markk wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:34 am
Sky News overall is respected. If you watched the link I gave you you can put the pieces together despite the outlet. It is not owned by Murdoch, or Fox, it is owned by comcast. It has an annual revenue of over 100 billion a year, and is reputable.
No, it isn't. Sky News Australia is not the same Sky News that's in Europe. The one in Europe is owned by Comcast. Sky News Australia is a different entity and is owned by News Corp.
Markk wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:34 am
try to have a little objectivity and critical thought. Again we can actually go through the link I gave you and test it, instead of picking a snippet out of a wiki article.
Ha! Seriously?
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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:29 pm
In regards to Trump....you have to admit the guy is tireless. He is active, and whether you like his bloviating or not, I certainly don't, although some are very funny, he is mentally sharp, quick witted, and again a tireless worker and physically and mentally fit.
Trump even cheats at his own golf tournaments.
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Moksha wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:26 am
Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:29 pm
In regards to Trump....you have to admit the guy is tireless. He is active, and whether you like his bloviating or not, I certainly don't, although some are very funny, he is mentally sharp, quick witted, and again a tireless worker and physically and mentally fit.
Trump even cheats at his own golf tournaments.
Lol, Biden per the debate, said he is a 6 handicap, and mumbled something like no an 8. The guy can barley walk let alone shoot a 78-80.

Did you watch the under 50 with Bryson Dechambeau? I am not saying he hasn't cheated, most golfers do at one time or another, but he is a legit single digit handicapper, at his age that is rare.
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Whatever one might say about Biden's alleged poor performance and dementia, the fact remains, as honorentheos and others have abundantly pointed out, there is a very long list of well documented positive accomplishments of his administration. Biden left us with an economy that was arguably the envy of the world, with a growing GDP, a lower inflation rate than most of the rest of the world, the lowest unemployment rate and the fastest jobs creation rate in decades, etc.

Now let us compare Biden's alleged dementia and poor cognizant capacity with Trump's embarrassing performance available for all to see when he recently hosted the German chancellor in the Oval Office: Donald Trump LEAVES GERMAN CHANCELLOR CONFUSED After Insane Oval Office Visit!!!

First of all, the German leader actually speaks better English than Trump does. Next, when the Chancellor talked about D Day and the importance of standing up to Russia's criminal aggression against Ukraine, Trump boasted incoherently about how great the U.S. economy was doing under his current administration, including how he had reduced the price of eggs by 400%! Fantastic! This would mean that our nation's grocery stores are now having to pay their customers 3 times their previous costs just to take all those eggs off their hands! Trump, allegedly (according to him) a brilliant graduate of the highly prestigious Wharton School of business and economics, can't even do basic arithmetic correctly! :lol:

He completely ignored what the Chancellor had said about the U.S. helping Ukraine and began an incoherent boast lying about how he was improving the U.S. economy! As one of the commentators said:
Kudos to the German Chancellor for not bursting into unstoppable laughs.
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Trump is and always has been a salesman and a fraud. He represents the absolute worst of us, and it is humiliating to see him interact with competent adults on the world stage.
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