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ceeboo wrote:
Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:59 pm
Vēritās wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:29 pm


He had neither when he was President. You're an idiot....
Wait - who is the idiot?
The idiot who has turned a blind eye to Trump's numerous examples of cognitive decline and instead bragged about his golf game. You're both idiots because you both completely ignored the examples I provided. Big surprise.

The knock against Biden was that he just "looks" old. And he does. But he did a hell of a job as President and got more done in six months legislatively than Trump has in five years. You idiots operate on a double standard and grade Trump on a huge curve. I mean, why the bejeezus are we still talking about Biden? He was awesome as President. The numbers don't lie.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:26 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:49 am
I’m sure most people are aware the Executive Office operates with a massive staff for a reason; a single person can’t personally vet and direct every line in every communication or document. It’s an impossibility. Who do you think is keeps the show going when Dump hits the links? Delegating tasks isn’t abdication; it’s the most fundamental part managing a a presidency.
Unfortunately, you’re dealing with Ceeboo and Hound believing that Trump writes all Executive Actions, Proclamations, trade deals, negotiations and policy positions that come out of the White House. They’re stuck having that be their default position, which rational folks not infected with their derangement syndrome realize is a ludicrous position for them to believe.
Honestly, I think you might be harboring some secret feelings for me since you keep throwing my name into conversations I'm not even part of! This thread is 10 pages long, and here I am, not even posting, yet you can't help but mention me?

Hey, I totally understand you're head over heels, and that's adorable, but I've already got a plus one!

Hey, just a quick reminder that you left my question hanging! Now that Dr. Shades has given the green light to post that thread you pulled, can you do me a solid and put it back on the board like a regular thread? Pretty please?
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I think I’m honestly shocked that Dr. Exiled gets sucked into their delusions. He’s clearly a notch above with regard to to thinking and composing a good argument. - Doc
I appreciate that Doc Ex has read as widely as they have. We may rarely agree on our conclusions but the conversation is always engaging.

Seems like I’m always able to learn something new from most of the folks in our little crowd.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:43 pm
Honestly, I think you might be harboring some secret feelings for me since you keep throwing my name into conversations I'm not even part of! This thread is 10 pages long, and here I am, not even posting, yet you can't help but mention me?
Ha! Made you post. : D
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:49 am
Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:28 am



Yep. It looks like the junior associates were running the show, not Biden.
Source that, please. And while you’re doing that I’ll offer up my view of this nontroversy.

I’m sure most people are aware the Executive Office operates with a massive staff for a reason; a single person can’t personally vet and direct every line in every communication or document. It’s an impossibility. Who do you think it is keeps the show going when Dump hits the links? Delegating tasks isn’t abdication; it’s the most fundamental part managing a a presidency. The fact that a staff plays roles in decisions or document creation doesn’t mean Biden, or Dump, or Bush, or Obama wasn’t steering the ship.

The implication that Biden was absent or unaware, well, there’s no actual evidence showing that. Every administration relies on junior staff for groundwork and senior advisors for strategy. Trying to frame this normal delegation as scandal is desperate and stupid.

If anything, the “junior associates” doing their jobs proves the system functions as intended.
The issue isn't whether there is delegation involved. Delegation of affixing a presidential signature to a document via an autopen is allowed if the president approves of the use on each bill or document. https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/whe ... affixed-it

The issue is whether Biden was the one doing the delegation or was it someone else because Biden was not mentally able to. The Hurr report showed some smoke. The way Biden acted in the debate with Trump showed more smoke. Last week Neera Tanden said she had control of the autopen yet didn't see Biden that much as in Biden wasn't personally there directing her on autopen usage. That's more smoke.

But, what about Trump????
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Vēritās wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:31 pm
The knock against Biden was that he just "looks" old.
I didn't realize that this was/is about Biden's "looks."

Thanks for correcting the record.
But he did a hell of a job as President
Given this factoid, I wonder why he was replaced by Harris. Any guesses?
He was awesome as President
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:44 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:43 pm
Honestly, I think you might be harboring some secret feelings for me since you keep throwing my name into conversations I'm not even part of! This thread is 10 pages long, and here I am, not even posting, yet you can't help but mention me?
Ha! Made you post. : D
Any idea when you'll restore my thread?
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So, your comment about junior associates was false.

“I was very happy to answer questions… happy to discuss my public service.” And when asked if there was a cover-up:
“Absolutely not.” - Tanden

Tanden’s statements describe routine administrative delegation, not evidence of a shadow presidency or cognitive unfitness. She said under oath that all procedures followed known policies. There was no health-related concealment. She operated within a clear chain of command. There’s simply no smoking gun in her words; just standard White House staffing protocols at work.

I agree Biden’s performance in the debate showed cognitive slowness, and probably some decline. How much? I dunno. I also think it was a huge mistake to run for a second term, and I thought the Democrats should’ve held a Primary. The Democrats and their internal politics suck major ass. So, if that’s any indication what I thought of Biden’s mental fitness I’ll leave it at that.

Trump was included along with others presidents. They all used autopen.

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ceeboo wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:15 pm

I didn't realize that this was/is about Biden's "looks."
Virtually every argument is based on the way he looks. The way he walks, the way he talks, the way he walks upright, ignoring the fact that he suffers from spinal arthritis. The fact that he always had a speech impediment, etc. None of that ever gets factored into the equation. Nope. You idiots immediately run to the conspiracy that Democrats, whoever they are, are actually running the government because there is no way Biden could be doing anything good.

Given this factoid, I wonder why he was replaced by Harris. Any guesses?
Obviously because of polling and the fact that he screwed the pooch in the final debate. Of course, his performance in the debate in 2020 isn't even in the same ballpark of what we saw in 2024. His decline took a rapid turn for the worse which is not uncommon for people his age. We're also witnessing the same exact thing happening with Trump, who gets a pass because he has "high energy" thanks to the drugs he takes, but his word salads are almost always completely ignored by the media. I mean for "F"s sakes, if Biden had started rambling about Harlem when he was brought in to speak about Harvard, you folks would be yelling 25th Amendment nonstop for months on end. But because it is your orange savior, .... move along, nothing to see here.
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