Romney loses in Florida to McCain...

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I was disappointed tonight but I kinda knew McCain would win.

I have lived in Florida for many years and the state is slam packed with grumpy war veterans. My Dad is one of them. They gather at Elks Lodges, which are as common as 7-Elevens in central Florida. They root for McCain simply because he is a POW.

I'm hoping Romney will pull through. McCain can't beat the democratic candidate. The liberal media was wishing McCain would win because they know it would make for a smooth ride for Obama or Hillary, during the November elections.
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I disagree. I think McCain would stand a much better chance of beating Obama of Hillary than Romney ever would. Romney has done nothing but pander to the religious right, which might have helped him in some way in the primaries, but in the general election would cut him off at the knees with independents and moderate democrats. McCain, on the other hand, is winning now, if indeed he is winning, because of the moderates. How many times have we read of people who normally would call themselves Democrats who went to vote for McCain in various primaries? I think that in the general election those are exactly the kinds of voters who would put a guy over the top.
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Sethbag wrote:I disagree. I think McCain would stand a much better chance of beating Obama of Hillary than Romney ever would. Romney has done nothing but pander to the religious right, which might have helped him in some way in the primaries, but in the general election would cut him off at the knees with independents and moderate democrats.


I agree. If Romney can't even win the Republican primary, how will he fare when democrats get to vote, too? He wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. I know I'd never vote for the guy. And I think neither would most "swing" voters. Hillary runs very consistently about 49% approval in the polls, but the other 50% or so really doesn't care for her. She doesn't have much appeal with swing voters. But if you have somebody running against her who has even less swing-vote appeal, some of them are liable to swing her way.
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Romney represents change. He is a different face. He has success written all over his resume. McCain is an old worn out has been. He couldn't even beat George Bush for crying out loud. We already know his politics. Been there, done that. He wasn't good enough to win 8 years ago and he isn't good enough now.

And McCain is the one who should apologize to Romney for the latest spat. He knew he was misrepresenting him, but he didn't seem to care. Its politics as usual. He got dirty with Bush too. And now that Romeny has accused him of dishonesty, he has Evangelical Huckabee backing him, saying "Well I have never know McCain to be dishonest."

Well, was he wasn't he?

And Romney has more "votes" than McCain up to this point (or so I heard), so it is silly to say he can't win. If Florida wasn't a winner take all" State, I bet he probably would have received most of the delegates like Hillary did even though Obama beat her in New Hampshire.
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Re: Romney loses in Florida to McCain...

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Boaz & Lidia wrote:So then, two funerals in one week?


Actually yeah (last week). And neither involved Hinckley.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about with McCain and Romney and whatever spat they may have had.

With respect to McCain not being able to beat GWB. I think it's more accurate to say McCain could not beat GWB's parents and connections, and the machine that supported him.
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Post by _dartagnan »

Correction, McCain has more votes:

Romney 1,131,072
McCain 1,207,905

But Romney also won Wyoming, with no votes included.

But as I said, if Florida were not a winner take all State, Romney would surely be leading with delegates. So it is sily to say he can't win.

And I think he has the backing of several hard line conservatives like the guys at Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, National Review magazine, etc. I think the real backbreaker will come down to California. Governor Arnold is highly influenced by the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh, so I think he might come out and endorse Romney.
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

Sethbag wrote:I'm not sure what you're talking about with McCain and Romney and whatever spat they may have had.


They've been going after each other pretty hard the last week. One of the most recent flairups was when McCain claimed Romney said he would pull troops outta Iraq, and Romney came back and said that McCain was being dishonest (If I recall correctly from listening to the news today). They've been hammering each other pretty hard since New Hampshire though.
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Post by _DonBradley »

richardMdBorn wrote:McCain-Feingold shows that he doesn't believe in the First Amendment.


Hmm. In my copy of the Constitution, the First Amendment doesn't say that those with money are more entitled--vastly more entitled--to free speech than are the rest of us. Sure you're not reading the (Corporately-) "Inspired Version"?
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McCain has no chance against either Hillary or Obama. Even though polls show McCain with the best Republican chance now, it will end up being Bob Dole all over again.

Of course, being the antiDemocrat that I am, I would vote for Huckabee (whilst holding my nose) before I voted for any Democrat or withheld my vote.
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