Obama's ties to radical Islam

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Tarski wrote:
bcspace wrote:
However, no one will be (or should be) prevented from using religion in dermining who one will vote for. But this really isn't about religion, it's about Obama supporting, aiding and abetting terrorism.


OMG!

The idea that Obama is aiding and abetting terrorism is about as true as the idea that Thomas Monson is aiding and abetting the porn industry. Nothing but insane slander. As I always say, too bad judgment day is just a fantasy.


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Brenton wrote:
I'd actually like if you could elaborate on what Obama's ties to terrorism are?


Blatant campaign smears need no evidence. The just exist on their own for the gullible.
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moksha wrote:
Brenton wrote:
I'd actually like if you could elaborate on what Obama's ties to terrorism are?


Blatant campaign smears need no evidence. The just exist on their own for the gullible.


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When it comes to this dispute between Israel and Palestine, you have a real good-guys /bad-guys black and white picture don't you?
I think that's from reading to much Book of Mormon in your youth.

Perhaps the voices on the Arab side needs to be heard too? Or do you hope for a genocide or final subjugation of Muslims (ironically by Christians)?
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The associate editor of the daily newspaper Al Quds Al Arabi, Abdelbari Atwane (the first journalist to have met Osama Bin Laden), in his lead article of November 3 considers the American elections. Under the provocative title “The Historic Intifada of Obama”, which makes reference to the Palestinian Intifada so often covered by the daily newspaper, Atwane stresses that “in the absence of a catastrophe, Obama will be elected, and the American people, through his vote, will have launched his more important Intifada”.

For Atwane, “the Americans thus give the kickoff of their historic Intifada against racism, of their revolution against sectarianism and the extreme right. A rising against the Anglo-Saxons and the slave system in general… ”


Leftist rhetoric and Islamist terminology. Yep. Welcome to the future AND the past.
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Tarski wrote:


When it comes to this dispute between Israel and Palestine, you have a real good-guys /bad-guys black and white picture don't you?
I think that's from reading to much Book of Mormon in your youth.

Perhaps the voices on the Arab side needs to be heard too? Or do you hope for a genocide or final subjugation of Muslims (ironically by Christians)?


No, it comes from being well-versed in Quranic warfare and the subsequent hadiths, fatwas, and schools of Islamic jurisprudence that mandate jihad as a means to bring the world under dar el Islam.

I'm a huge fan of Arab voices that speak out against Islamism and tyranny. Unfortunately, they get little support from Leftists in the West that refuse to acknowledge the threat they themselves face. Short-sighted geopolitical gains, political greed, and idealism are blinding people like yourself to the reality of Islam. It's Mormonism on steroids, with a gun. Think about it.
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No, it comes from being well-versed in Quranic warfare and the subsequent hadiths, fatwas, and schools of Islamic jurisprudence that mandate jihad as a means to bring the world under dar el Islam.

I'm a huge fan of Arab voices that speak out against Islamism and tyranny. Unfortunately, they get little support from Leftists in the West that refuse to acknowledge the threat they themselves face. Short-sighted geopolitical gains, political greed, and idealism are blinding people like yourself to the reality of Islam. It's Mormonism on steroids, with a gun. Think about it.


Why would you support the "my god is bigger than your god" mentality of the Palin supporters. The elements on both sides that see this as a last days battle are dangerous.
Obama seems to take a more secular approach.

BY the way, I am certain that if Israel had been given Montana instead, we would now be living in a world of anti-semite radical Chritianity in this country. It is only a matter of historical continency that a large part of the Islamic world has been radicalized.
Chritianity has all the same seeds of violence and intolerance. It was once (and could again be) driven to extremes.

Plus, don't you think Obama is right in implying that we should be kicking butt in Afganistan rather than being distracted by nonexistent WMD's. Bush and company didn't pick their battles wisely and essential manipulated the public. That whole party deserves to be shown the door, at least for several years.
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Tarski wrote:
Why would you support the "my god is bigger than your god" mentality of the Palin supporters. The elements on both sides that see this as a last days battle are dangerous.
Obama seems to take a more secular approach.

BY the way, I am certain that if Israel had been given Montana instead, we would now be living in a world of anti-semite radical Chritianity in this country. It is only a matter of historical continency that a large part of the Islamic world has been radicalized.
Chritianity has all the same seeds of violence and intolerance. It was once (and could again be) driven to extremes.

Plus, don't you think Obama is right in implying that we should be kicking butt in Afganistan rather than being distracted by nonexistent WMD's. Bush and company didn't pick their battles wisely and essential manipulated the public. That whole party deserves to be shown the door, at least for several years.


I'm not really sure if you want me to respond to anything, or if you're musing. You'll have to let me know.

Please respond to the following questions:

1) Are Obama's networking with extremist Islamic groups, including the Nation of Islam and such organizations as the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the North American Islamic Trust, the Muslim Alliance in North America, and the Muslim American Society problematic for you specifically...

2) ..., and to Leftists on the whole, since historically Leftists are purged in short order once their alliance with Islamists is no longer needed?
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Yet another election cycle post by a "moderate" Muslim:

Democracy, like all other systems fabricated by the minds of men are untenable in Islam. It is an un-Islamic system…[and] there is absolutely no basis anywhere in the Qur'aan for western democracy and its parliamentary system. A government of democracy is a government appointed by Juhhaal (ignoramuses). Ignoramuses, fussaaq and fujjaar have no share in appointing a government in Islam. The Islamic system is Khilaafat…


This thinking and this activism isn't random, nor is it extreme. This is standard procedure for the Islamic adherent. Leftists making alliances with Muslims have to understand that 1) the above quote is mainstream, accepted ideology in the various schools of Islamic jurisprudence and thousands of ummahs throughout the world, to include here in the US, and 2) under Sharia Leftists would be purged, quickly and with zeal. Where Conservatives bitch about people like you, Islamists kill you. You don't believe me? What just happened in the West Bank? HAMAS purged Fatah, a largely secular and Leftist organization. Violently. Quickly. This is a story that repeats itself over and over again. Islamists win because they're willing to resort to a stunning level of violence to achieve their end, which is mandated by the Quran and Hadiths.
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