Fast-food Wages

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Re: Fast-food Wages

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Okay, I can now basically understand why some of the Fast-food workers in California would be upset about.

Consider: In 1999 – the year before more generous retirement formulas started snowballing statewide – there were 16,071 retirements, and the average benefit was $20,532 per year, according to CalPERS figures.

In 2012, there were nearly twice as many retirements – 33,330 – and the average annual benefit had almost doubled, to $36,468.


http://www.ocregister.com/taxdollars/ci ... -club.html



The federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour and was last raised in 2009. In California, it's $8 an hour and was last raised in 2008.

LA fast food workers make a median wage of $9 an hour and $11,232 annually, according to Good Jobs LA.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/2 ... ref=topbar
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ajax18 wrote:People have always taken advantage of other people to better their own standard of living. My question is, "Where do Californians keep their slaves?" Somebody is working at the convenience store, fast food, etc.


That's a very good question!

Undocumented aliens are, in effect, slaves. How can we reasonably solve this problem?

There are so many of them here. Any attempt to send them back is unworkable and probably cruel.

Any suggestions?
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Quasimodo wrote:
ajax18 wrote:People have always taken advantage of other people to better their own standard of living. My question is, "Where do Californians keep their slaves?" Somebody is working at the convenience store, fast food, etc.


That's a very good question!

Undocumented aliens are, in effect, slaves. How can we reasonably solve this problem?

There are so many of them here. Any attempt to send them back is unworkable and probably cruel.

Any suggestions?


Comprehensive immigration reform, which has already passed in the Senate, but it now needs to be passed in the House of Representatives.
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Comprehensive immigration reform, which has already passed in the Senate, but it now needs to be passed in the House of Representatives.


If the bill would allow the INS to enforce the border it might pass the House of Representatives. But it doesn't. What guarantee do we have that just because comprehensive immigration reform is law that it will be enforced? The current law isn't enforced. It's like a tax reform agreement. We always give the tax increase, but never get the spending cut. We always give the amnesty and increase the number of legal immigrants, but never get the border secured.

There are so many of them here. Any attempt to send them back is unworkable and probably cruel.


So grant them amnesty and leave the border open for another 25 million to take their place, right? I suppose 10 years from now we'll be talking about 50 million illegal immigrants in the country and people will be saying, "We can't afford to round up 50 million people and send them home."
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Quasimodo wrote:
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Well.

You know.

People who actually labor shouldn't have nice stuff.

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The idea is to create enough demand for human labor that businesses have to compete for workers. That's what drives wages up, not government mandates.

In a country that refuses to enforce laws against paying under the table and illegal immigration, I'm not sure how relevant government mandated minimum wage is in these stats and figures they throw up. These policies are pushing this nation further and further into a black market economy every day.
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Kevin Graham wrote:This was particularly awesome.


Don't see why..... Rush gave a "family" supporting example (ONLY IN THAT REPORT), thus not an equivalent in wage to a single person making minimum wage. He wasn't quoted his other examples of work.

And O'reilly gave a perfectly equivalent example, because almost none of those workers actually get "minimum wage" but instead get 8 dollars, and O'reilly's equivalent 9 dollars isn't a big difference statistically speaking, given many other factors.

Thus, the only thing "awesome" about that article is media matters quote mined only ONE example of Rush's which isn't equivalent, trying to make it sound like Rush was making an equivalency directly to "minimum wage", which he wasn't.

Thus, as usual, we see media matters misrepresenting the facts and truth, making false comparisons and invalid comparisons.
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Re: Fast-food Wages

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You either didn't read the article or you're too stupid to understand the refutation. Given that you are who you are, we'll go with the latter.
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