"Your life and family are not ruined"

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Sammy Jankins wrote:Yes your child being murdered is definitively worse. But being accused of gang rape in the press isn’t nothing if you’re innocent. These allegations will be what defines him for the rest of his life. It may be all people remember about him.


If he doesn't make it onto the bench he'll be the new Bork:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_ ... nomination

Instead of getting bork'd they'll get Kavanaugh'd which will consist of alleging the nominated judge is some variation of a depraved raping gang banging lying raging alcoholic.

Kavanaugh will only be remembered for this if he doesn't get the seat.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Instead of getting bork'd they'll get Kavanaugh'd which will consist of alleging the nominated judge is some variation of a depraved raping gang banging lying raging alcoholic.

Kavanaugh will only be remembered for this if he doesn't get the seat.

Oh, I think he'll be remembered that way, either way.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Instead of getting bork'd they'll get Kavanaugh'd which will consist of alleging the nominated judge is some variation of a depraved raping gang banging lying raging alcoholic.

Kavanaugh will only be remembered for this if he doesn't get the seat.

Oh, I think he'll be remembered that way, either way.

Kavanaugh, on the Court, will be the 40-year memorial to the Man-Child Presidency, and an ever-present reminder of the era of no-backbone, self-pitying Snowflake Conservatism. Long live the eternal whine of the Oppressed White Country Club Child. : D
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canpakes wrote:Kavanaugh, on the Court, will be the 40-year memorial to the Man-Child Presidency, and an ever-present reminder of the era of no-backbone, self-pitying Snowflake Conservatism. Long live the eternal whine of the Oppressed White Country Club Child. : D


I know right? Those damn snowflake white people getting upset about being accused of gang rape.
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Sammy Jankins wrote:
canpakes wrote:Kavanaugh, on the Court, will be the 40-year memorial to the Man-Child Presidency, and an ever-present reminder of the era of no-backbone, self-pitying Snowflake Conservatism. Long live the eternal whine of the Oppressed White Country Club Child. : D


I know right? Those damn snowflake white people getting upset about being accused of gang rape.


There would have been nothing wrong if Kavanaugh's testimony had been as firm, reasonable and dignified as Ford's indisputably was.

In fact, it would have carried much more weight. Imagine him having said "I am sorry for Professor Ford's hurt, which shows clearly as underlying her restrained and dignified testimony. I don't doubt that she is telling the truth as she recalls it, and that something traumatic happened to her all those years ago when we were both high school kids. As a judge, I know that such testimony rarely comes out of nowhere. But I wish to solemnly affirm under oath that whatever happened to her was not done by me."

That man would have sounded like a judge. The indignant, sometimes enraged, sometimes snivellingly self-pitying person we saw testifying did not.
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In terms of trying to become a Supreme Court justice his temperament was bad. His statements about the “Clintons” was likely disqualifying. But if he is innocent the emotional displays are all understandable and don’t merit calling him a snowflake or a whiner.
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Sammy Jankins wrote:
canpakes wrote:Kavanaugh, on the Court, will be the 40-year memorial to the Man-Child Presidency, and an ever-present reminder of the era of no-backbone, self-pitying Snowflake Conservatism. Long live the eternal whine of the Oppressed White Country Club Child. : D


I know right? Those damn snowflake white people getting upset about being accused of gang rape.

Except that the Judiciary Committee didn’t accuse him or ask him about ‘gang rape’. A drunken attempt at sexual assault is not the same and an attempt to conflate the two go hand in hand with the “my life is destroyed” line of BS.

That accusation, regardless, is serious enough and any person obviously has a right to defend against it if warranted. But the manner in which Kavanaugh did so, with his conspiratorial and immature, self-pitying rants mixed amid his ludicrous claims, was not the behavior of a man that I’d ever place on the Supreme Court, let alone place much trust in even as a common associate.
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I believe Lindsey Graham asked him if he was a gang rapist knowing it was playing to a particular crowd and would be emphatically and quickly denied. It was a low point, in my opinion, given the accusation comes from an extrapolation of the claim the high school jock culture which Kavanaugh was part of included guys getting girls drunk, and gang rapes occurred. There is also a different account from of a former girlfriend of Mark Judge who claims he told her about an incident where he participated in having sex with a girl who was drunk along with a group of other men, and he had not recognized it was nonconsensual.

The problem with that and Graham's question is how it focuses on something Kavanaugh has not been directly accused of by his identified accusers, and used the denial and claims to make everything Kavanaugh actually is accused of appear baseless and outrageous.
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honorentheos wrote:I believe Lindsey Graham asked him if he was a gang rapist knowing it was playing to a particular crowd ...

Yes, calculated political theatre, playing to the Base. All well and good for entertainment value but I don’t see it as representative of what folks opposed to Kavanaugh in that hearing were asking.

I made the comment before but I’ll repeat it here: I always figured that Kavanaugh would be appointed given what I interpreted as a respectable if not quirky conservative judicial history, and didn’t see the incident with Ford as a serious deterrent to being appointed given that event’s context, but hearing his unhinged rant in those hearings convinced me that he is not qualified to ‘judge’ from a seat on the highest court in the land.
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canpakes wrote:
honorentheos wrote:I believe Lindsey Graham asked him if he was a gang rapist knowing it was playing to a particular crowd ...

Yes, calculated political theatre, playing to the Base. All well and good for entertainment value it I don’t see it as representative of what folks opposed to Kavanaugh in that hearing were asking.

I made the comment before but I’ll repeat it here: I always figured that Kavanaugh would be appointed given what I interpreted as a respectable if not quirky conservative judicial history, and didn’t see the incident with Ford as a serious deterrent to being appointed given that event’s context, but hearing his unhinged rant in those hearings convinced me that he is not qualified to ‘judge’ from a seat on the highest court in the land.

If Dr. Ford had behaved like Kavanaugh, she would have been accused of being and hysterical woman.

The word hysterical comes from the Greek hysterikos, meaning "of the womb" (same root as hysterectomy). This type of behavior was said to originate from the womb of a woman.

Sexism is literally ingrained in our language about behavior.
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