How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump ????? And Pittsburgh

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Re: How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump — And Pittsburgh

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ajax18 wrote:


This coming from one of the most hateful people I've ever met.


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Re: How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump — And Pittsburgh

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Chap wrote:
subgenius wrote:There is absolutely only one person responsible for the synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh.


YES - in the sense that, assuming he had no material help by anybody else who was aware of his plan, he is indeed the only person who will have to face charges for the killing of these people.

NO - in the sense that there were people on his Gab list (it was Gab, was it not?) who spent many hours writing and reposting material designed to suggest that the USA, and particularly the white citizens thereof, were in mortal danger from conspiracies launched by evil Jews, and in some cases discussing what kind of action should, ideally be taken to eliminate that threat.

Nope, there is only one sense here and it is that only 1 person is responsible and that person ain't Trump.

The simple fact is that even you have read anti-semitic messages; have knowledge of conspiracies; have access to guns; etc...yet you somehow did not shoot up a synagogue.

Your "Gab" theory is unreasonable inasmuch as it must therefore be considered "at fault" should Gab be shot up by a crazed gunman who believes that Gab is culpable inthe Pittsburgh event....and....must...be...held...accountable.

Seehow that works? and by that, i mean the free expression of thoughts and ideas through speech/words.

Your reasoning here is a most dangerous way to think to a free society.
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Re: How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump — And Pittsburgh

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Res Ipsa wrote:USA Today did an interesting story that traces the spread of the "Soros is funding the caravan" lie through the internet and into mainstream discourse. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 824633002/

Interesting is gow that same "spread" was used to disparage Kavanaugh and gave "believability" to a witness who otherwise would have never made it past the front desk at a police station.

One glaring difference between Ford and Soros though, Ford did not have an evidence based history of repeatedly being sexually assaulted by Frat boys.
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Re: How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump — And Pittsburgh

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subgenius wrote:i mean the free expression of thoughts and ideas through speech/words.


That is of course guaranteed under the first Amendment to the Constitution - and that fact is not under dispute.

However the fact that people cannot be prosecuted at law in the US for repeatedly encouraging hatred and fear of Jews online, and posting fantasies of violent action against them, in no way relieves them of their share of moral responsibility when a crazy gun-slinging guy is thereby hyped up to go out and actually kill some Jews.

Are you under the impression, perhaps, that something which it is legal to do can never be ethically wrong? Why, I think you are, at least in this instance. That is an unfortunate confusion, to say the least.
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Re: How Hate Spreads From Fox To Trump — And Pittsburgh

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Funny how anti-Semitic speech is harmless, but speech about anti-Smetic speech is dangerous.
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