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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I know the Atlanta Braves, Florida State Seminoles, and Kansas City Chiefs still do it. I don't know if they still license and sell the foam choppy chops.

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FSU even has their mascot ride out to middle of football field and throw spear into ground...how are these offensive when they are historically accurate depictions of MA behavior? I mean, I could understand being upset if a school/team called themselves "Dancing Rabbit Creek", "Payne's Landing", or if someone claimed to be of Native American heritage just to exploit the system for personal gain....

But to be truthful, the NA's lost several wars and all these modern white tears do not suddenly give them moral high ground over the victors. This time in American history is not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all those who participate.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Bach wrote:It’s been accepted, admired and promoted for decades with no ill will directed:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q65mCLCoEwA

Quit rationalizing your blame on these kids from Covington and just step up and apologize! Why is it that those who spend the most time on their ass in front of a keyboard and screen are those with the least amount of common sense?


I think you should apologize for linking to a completely irrelevant video.


It's a trollish reference to the Treaty of Payne's Landing.
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subgenius wrote:But to be truthful, the NA's lost several wars and all these modern white tears do not suddenly give them moral high ground over the victors. This time in American history is not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all those who participate.

Yes, kind of like how the Germans kicked the arses of those Poles and Jewish folks in the Warsaw Ghetto. Certainly, the victor always has the moral high ground and never needs to self-reflect on their actions or intent. That war was not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all who participated. Right? ; )
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Bach is a sociopathic troll, but for what is is worth the idea that because sports teams still use Native American imagery in stereotypical and demeaning way, that proves it is fine to do those things to a Native American makes the case against them for you. If you think the existence of a sports team called the redskins makes it ok to call a Native American a redskin or the existence of mock chants and tomohawk chops makes it ok to do that to a Native American’s face, then you suck.

As with all performative racism, people accept it as fine until they decide not to.

Anyway, here’s a BBC show that was on the air until 1978.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYOraDt1_k
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EAllusion wrote:Bach is a sociopathic troll, but for what is is worth the idea that because sports teams still use Native American imagery in stereotypical and demeaning way, that proves it is fine to do those things makes the case against them for you. If you think the existence of a sports team called the redskins makes it ok to call a Native American a redskin or the existence of mock chants and tomohawk chops makes it ok to do that to a Native American’s face, then you suck.

As with all performative racism, people accept it as fine until they decide not to.

Anyway, here’s a BBC show that was on the air until 1978.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYOraDt1_k


Who are you talking to right now?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Bach is a sociopathic troll, but for what is is worth the idea that because sports teams still use Native American imagery in stereotypical and demeaning way, that proves it is fine to do those things makes the case against them for you. If you think the existence of a sports team called the redskins makes it ok to call a Native American a redskin or the existence of mock chants and tomohawk chops makes it ok to do that to a Native American’s face, then you suck.

As with all performative racism, people accept it as fine until they decide not to.

Anyway, here’s a BBC show that was on the air until 1978.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYOraDt1_k


Who are you talking to right now?

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I am addressing the argument in the OP, so I am addressing the general tread topic? Bach is using it to troll, but people genuinely think it, so I wanted to comment on it.
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Do you think all teams that use NA imagery fall under your observation, or just the Redskins? For example, my high school's mascot, the Indian, specifically a particular profile design that is on the school's reader board, was design by members of the Spokane tribe. Where does racism stop and respectful homage begin for you?

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Bach wrote:Re: Let’s Clear Up Tomahawk Chop Excuse From Left!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q65mCLCoEwA

What on earth is the connection between your thread title and the video to which you linked??
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Bach wrote:Re: Let’s Clear Up Tomahawk Chop Excuse From Left!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q65mCLCoEwA

What on earth is the connection between your thread title and the video to which you linked??

It’s a pun. Planes landing = Payne’s Landing. It’s like Donald Trump cracking wounded knee and trail of tears jokes.

(Either Bach has a connection to Florida or his barely literate moron version of trolling masks an unexpected level of knowledge this time around.)
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