Michael Flynn: We should be a nation of One Religion

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Re: Michael Flynn: We should be a nation of One Religion

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:54 am
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am
I would love to serve the general Flynn and have the opportunity to break away and build a faith based country some day.
A country based on which faith?
in my opinion the United States was not built on a particular Christian religious sect, but it was founded up on a general Judeo-Christian religion. Our legal system assumes people share values that are common to these religious traditions. We don't really share those same values anymore. Michael Flynn's words did seem similar to Joseph Smith's view that there should be one faith, one baptism, one God, etc. A country in which everyone shared judeo-christian values could be enormously successful.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:54 am

A country based on which faith?
in my opinion the United States was not built on a particular Christian religious sect, but it was founded up on a general Judeo-Christian religion. Our legal system assumes people share values that are common to these religious traditions. We don't really share those same values anymore. Michael Flynn's words did seem similar to Joseph Smith's view that there should be one faith, one baptism, one God, etc. A country in which everyone shared judeo-christian values could be enormously successful.
This is typical boilerplate propaganda from the religious Right. The fact that you long for a theocracy just goes to show how the so called "patriots" on the Right are really no friend to the Constitution.
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People like Michael Flynn see the way forward is to look backward, to the way things were. That ain't the way history works. You can't start from where we were. You have to start from where we are.
The problem is that the way things were was the GOP and its base weren't damned insane.

They don't have any interest in going back to that. They enjoy being aggrieved and whiny about the fantasy world they've manufactured. I honestly believe they enjoy being this stupid. It's got to be somewhat liberating to not have to worry about reality, and just make up whatever story serves the dumbass narrative and agenda you're looking to push.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm
A country in which everyone shared judeo-christian values could be enormously successful.

What are those values, and what makes them uniquely Christian?

If you can’t explain it, how will you recognize or enforce it?
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:34 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm
A country in which everyone shared judeo-christian values could be enormously successful.
What are those values, and what makes them uniquely Christian?

If you can’t explain it, how will you recognize or enforce it?
This is why I ignore ajax (aside from the fact that he can't avoid lying). The so-called Christians in this country don't share Christ's values. Christ never said anything about worshipping a douche bag (unless you count his purported dad).

I'm pretty confident I have a much better handle on what Christ was about than most American "Christians."
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Instinct, common sense and reason all play a part.
Is that all a conscience is? What exactly is a conscience to you?
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I'm pretty confident I have a much better handle on what Christ was about than most American "Christians."
Understanding who Christ was and what he was about is a lot different than following him or even believing what Christ said. What exactly is a conscience in your mind Schmo?
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:34 pm
I'm pretty confident I have a much better handle on what Christ was about than most American "Christians."
Understanding who Christ was and what he was about is a lot different than following him or even believing what Christ said. What exactly is a conscience in your mind Schmo?
I thought you said you were in favour of
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm
judeo-christian values
So, since Jews do not recognise any special status for the particular Jewish guy commonly called 'Jesus' by modern English speakers, his special status as 'Christ' (i.e. the anointed one, hence the Messiah) can hardly be any part of the core 'judeo-christian values' you advocate for your imaginary nation, can it?

Or when you say 'judeo-christian', do you just mean Christian? If so, why not say so?
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It's remarkable how similar being a priest and being a stand-up comic are. They both make crap up for a living and stand in front of a room telling people the crap they made up.

The only real difference is that you're not supposed to laugh in a church. Well, that and the weird costumes.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:18 pm
The only real difference is that you're not supposed to laugh in a church. Well, that and the weird costumes.
Man, Carrot Top really missed his true calling. Can you imagine a sermon with props?

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