A shift in right-wingism?

[Moksha]

It is hard to distinguish between the right-wing willingness to tell lies or whether it is a compulsion.

[Some Schmo]

It is hard to distinguish between the right-wing willingness to tell lies or whether it is a compulsion.

It's the only skill they've really practiced.

[Some Schmo]

The more I think about this, the more I think it's just a move to extremism where a large portion of the right-wing has lost touch with what certain concepts actually mean.

People whining about free-speech being limited haven't a damned clue what free-speech actually entails. It's no longer free speech with the associated responsibilities, it's free speech 24/7/365 with no consequences.

It reminds me of the way the right has also bastardized the meaning of the second amendment: carrying guns responsibility free.

I suppose what I think the real shift is is the loss of personal responsibility as a right-wing value (assuming they ever genuinely held it).

[Binger]

Earlier in my life, the distinction between liberal and conservative was one of economics. Republicans changed the distinction to culture. It was an advantageous move for the wealthy of any political affiliation, as the peasants fight over culture while the wealthy suck up all the money.

Easy hardcharger. Easy.

We shan't go there.

[Res Ipsa]

Earlier in my life, the distinction between liberal and conservative was one of economics. Republicans changed the distinction to culture. It was an advantageous move for the wealthy of any political affiliation, as the peasants fight over culture while the wealthy suck up all the money.

Easy hardcharger. Easy.

We shan't go there.

LOL. I don't think i'm charging very hard there. The shift from economics to culture was a strategic decision by the leaders of the Republican Party. Not to affix blame but only to note timing: the share of national income that went to the top .1% fell steadily post-WWII and leveled out until about 1980. Then it rose rapidly. The shift in emphasis from economic to cultural distinctions began then. The Republicans of today are by and large not economic conservatives. Trade protectionism is anathema to economic conservatives. As are strict immigration laws.

Ever read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent? It's some color of pill. Purple maybe, as red, blue and black are taken. Once you see how the media functions and who ends up with the money, it's pretty hard to unsee. I don't think it's a conspiracy -- it's the outcome the system generates.

[Binger]

Easy hardcharger. Easy.

We shan't go there.

LOL. I don't think i'm charging very hard there. The shift from economics to culture was a strategic decision by the leaders of the Republican Party. Not to affix blame but only to note timing: the share of national income that went to the top .1% fell steadily post-WWII and leveled out until about 1980. Then it rose rapidly. The shift in emphasis from economic to cultural distinctions began then. The Republicans of today are by and large not economic conservatives. Trade protectionism is anathema to economic conservatives. As are strict immigration laws.

Ever read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent? It's some color of pill. Purple maybe, as red, blue and black are taken. Once you see how the media functions and who ends up with the money, it's pretty hard to unsee. I don't think it's a conspiracy -- it's the outcome the system generates.

Have not read it. Congratulations on keeping track of the pills. The red pill, that's the one exclusively for moderators, right?

[Res Ipsa]

LOL. I don't think i'm charging very hard there. The shift from economics to culture was a strategic decision by the leaders of the Republican Party. Not to affix blame but only to note timing: the share of national income that went to the top .1% fell steadily post-WWII and leveled out until about 1980. Then it rose rapidly. The shift in emphasis from economic to cultural distinctions began then. The Republicans of today are by and large not economic conservatives. Trade protectionism is anathema to economic conservatives. As are strict immigration laws.

Ever read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent? It's some color of pill. Purple maybe, as red, blue and black are taken. Once you see how the media functions and who ends up with the money, it's pretty hard to unsee. I don't think it's a conspiracy -- it's the outcome the system generates.

Have not read it. Congratulations on keeping track of the pills. The red pill, that's the one exclusively for moderators, right?

Naw, we don't take pills. Just Red Bull and raw steaks.

[huckelberry]

Have not read it. Congratulations on keeping track of the pills. The red pill, that's the one exclusively for moderators, right?

Res Ipsa posts an actual idea and observation. It has substance with which one could agree or disagree with or perhaps even some of both, with ideas.

Instead this reply is not much but perhaps a thin gaseous emission.

[Binger]

Have not read it. Congratulations on keeping track of the pills. The red pill, that's the one exclusively for moderators, right?

Res Ipsa posts an actual idea and observation. It has substance with which one could agree or disagree with or perhaps even some of both, with ideas.

Instead this reply is not much but perhaps a thin gaseous emission.

Huck, you missed this part, where I was asked if I had read Chomsky?

Ever read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent?

We good now?

[Res Ipsa]

Have not read it. Congratulations on keeping track of the pills. The red pill, that's the one exclusively for moderators, right?

Res Ipsa posts an actual idea and observation. It has substance with which one could agree or disagree with or perhaps even some of both, with ideas.

Instead this reply is not much but perhaps a thin gaseous emission.

As we have a meta thread going, I don't want to get too meta, but.... I don't feel put off or ignored by Binger's response. I'm glad you found my post substantive. Binger answered the one question I asked. Beyond that, maybe he decided he'd made the point that was important to him. Or that he wasn't interested in getting down into the weeds and arguing about the history of political strategy and function of media. Or he didn't have any particular substantive thing to say but will noodle on it.

His quip responded to the tone I injected into my post when I joked about the color of pills. That's fine. And I responded with a quip of my own. All cool as far as I'm concerned.