Domion Suit Against Fox is Heading to Trial

[Res Ipsa]

Because of the claims against individual show hosts?

Wouldn't the show hosts use respondeat superior to let Fox handle this burden?

I’m not sure how respondeat superior works in a defamation case against a public figure under New York law.

[Moksha]

I’m not sure how respondeat superior works in a defamation case against a public figure under New York law.

Since Fox has let them lie nonstop for years and given them raises in the meantime, they could argue they were just doing the master's bidding of foisting lies and undermining democracy.

[Gunnar]

In other words, FNN is claiming that it is perfectly acceptable to repeat and even promote even the most egregious and damaging lie imaginable, as long as they don't claim to actually believe the lie themselves. Is that it?

Not quite. They claim that they didn’t repeat the lie. They just reported that other people were telling the lie.

That seems to me a distinction without a substantive difference when they make little or no effort to fact check the lie, despite having admitted they know it's a lie in private amongst themselves or after having claimed as a defense, while under oath, that no reasonable person would believe it anyway.

[Res Ipsa]

I’m not sure how respondeat superior works in a defamation case against a public figure under New York law.

Since Fox has let them lie nonstop for years and given them raises in the meantime, they could argue they were just doing the master's bidding of foisting lies and undermining democracy.

I’m not sure that’s a legal defense for the individual defendants.

[Some Schmo]

Not quite. They claim that they didn’t repeat the lie. They just reported that other people were telling the lie.

That seems to me a distinction without a substantive difference when they make little or no effort to fact check the lie, despite having admitted they know it's a lie in private amongst themselves or after having claimed as a defense, while under oath, that no reasonable person would believe it anyway.

At any point, did Fox point out that it was a lie, or something other people wanted to believe?

It certainly stretches credulity to believe Fox was just "commenting on the controversy."

[Moksha]

I think Fox should be held responsible for melting the brains of the residents of Shasta County, California. Even though Ajax might hold this brain melting to be a good thing, I disagree.


ByTW, the Board of Supervisors for this county is working with Mike Lindell to provide the vote count rather than Dominion. Ajax would probably attribute it to the rightful role of white pillows to ensure a conservative vote win.

[Some Schmo]

ByTW, the Board of Supervisors for this county is working with Mike Lindell to provide the vote count rather than Dominion. Ajax would probably attribute it to the rightful role of white pillows to ensure a conservative vote win.

Lindell is the perfect spokesperson for people who are against waking up.

[Brack]

ByTW, the Board of Supervisors for this county is working with Mike Lindell to provide the vote count rather than Dominion. Ajax would probably attribute it to the rightful role of white pillows to ensure a conservative vote win.

The Shasta County Board of Supervisors recently voted 3 to 2 to count all of the county ballots by hand.

After Shasta County ended its contract with Dominion Voting Systems over election fraud conspiracy theories, there were two options county leaders considered: 1) Enter an agreement with a different electronic voting system certified by the state of California, or 2) Attempt to count all ballots by hand — which would come at a very steep cost and risk falling out of compliance with state law — and apparently hope that My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell pays the legal fees stemming from any possible lawsuits.

Guess which option the five-person board — now led by a conservative supermajority — chose.

"The whole thing is just hard to absorb and I'm in a little bit of shock," county elections chief Cathy Darling Allen told SFGATE on Tuesday evening, after the board voted 3-2 to hand-count all ballots. The vote came at the tail end of a laborious nine-hour meeting.

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article ... 865649.php

[Brack]

Hand counting paper ballots takes a very long time to do. The Cyber Ninjas with their volunteers took about three months to hand count all of the about two million Maricopa County paper ballots. And that was only counting two contests on those ballots.

[Gunnar]

That seems to me a distinction without a substantive difference when they make little or no effort to fact check the lie, despite having admitted they know it's a lie in private amongst themselves or after having claimed as a defense, while under oath, that no reasonable person would believe it anyway.

At any point, did Fox point out that it was a lie, or something other people wanted to believe?

It certainly stretches credulity to believe Fox was just "commenting on the controversy."

Agreed! Merely commenting on these lies told by others, with little or no effort to even hint that they may lack credibility indicates that they were perfectly okay with their audience believing the lies, and probably even perceived some monetary or other advantage to themselves in having their audience believe the lies rather than the truth.