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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:45 am
What I am much less sure of is who's sock it was. To be honest, the post here was very well written, so........
A-Mike can communicate very well when he wants to. He's had some very moving, heartfelt posts that reveal a sincere individual who wants to talk about Mormonism and his experiences as a Mormon. And his experiences in that regard were very interesting to me.

At the same time, he has thousands of other posts (in a brief time span) under his belt aimed to ruin the board for everyone else participating.

One option that he has -- and I'm assuming he's banned -- is to simply quit creating socks, let the ban expire, and start posting again, but this time stick with posts like the one that we both read. I'll bet you if he does that, there is a near zero probability that he will ever be censured again.
Yeah - So I haven't had the experience of reading an A-Mike post like the one that vanished in that thread - That one was very well written - so....maybe it was A-Mike?

I started this thread because I was going to write a reply to the now vanished thread and I was puzzled. Now, at this point, it is being suggested that it was an A-Miike sock. In addition, I have made some posts about A-Mike and he can't respond to me or any of us. I am very uncomfortable with that.

So, given my discomfort concerning my comments about A-Mike and his inability to reply to me if he wished to (as well as my OP being addressed), I am asking if this entire thread can be nuked as well. Can it?
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I started this thread because I was going to write a reply to the now vanished thread and I was puzzled. Now, at this point, it is being suggested that it was an A-Miike sock. In addition, I have made some posts about A-Mike and he can't respond to me or any of us. I am very uncomfortable with that.
I can understand this. Which is why I have a somewhat disagreement with the mods and Shades. I think A-Mike socks should be pre-emptively wiped out and all posts immediately deleted. The only reason why he spent the time to write this post was because he got away with a bunch of other posts from other socks, and even got a rule change. Same with binger being constrained to another forum, it would be better to just ban him until he can keep the rules in all the forums. otherwise it gives rise to the impression that these folks are legitimate members of the forum who are being treated unequally from everyone else.

Yes, technically possible to delete this thread. up to the mods, not me of course.
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ceeboo wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:00 am
… In addition, I have made some posts about A-Mike and he can't respond to me or any of us. I am very uncomfortable with that.
Email or PM is always an option.

Or, respond to the other posts hosting the same basic content that he or someone else has left behind.

Spamming the board with redundant threads created by a single user under multiple sock puppets - all pushing the same argument - isn’t the preferred way to explore an opinion.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:09 am
... I think A-Mike socks should be pre-emptively wiped out and all posts immediately deleted. The only reason why he spent the time to write this post was because he got away with a bunch of other posts from other socks, and even got a rule change...
Yes. The point was made that mods don't know which accounts are sock puppets until they start posting, but this OP was the 12th post of this author. I understand being cautious, but the pattern has to be clear by now. The modus operandi has been noted repeatedly.
...Same with binger being constrained to another forum, it would be better to just ban him until he can keep the rules in all the forums. otherwise it gives rise to the impression that these folks are legitimate members of the forum who are being treated unequally from everyone else...
Good point. I am pretty sure this arises from our proprietor's strong sense of free speech, but it does give the wrong impression.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:09 am
I started this thread because I was going to write a reply to the now vanished thread and I was puzzled. Now, at this point, it is being suggested that it was an A-Miike sock. In addition, I have made some posts about A-Mike and he can't respond to me or any of us. I am very uncomfortable with that.
I think A-Mike socks should be pre-emptively wiped out and all posts immediately deleted.
I don't claim to know or understand the various motives people have surrounding the making of sock puppets - not only have I never had one, having one has never even crossed my mind. Having said that, this particular instance sure seems like a pretty good example that would support your position.
Yes, technically possible to delete this thread. up to the mods, not me of course.
If this thread remains, no worries. I was just asking.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:09 am

I can understand this. Which is why I have a somewhat disagreement with the mods and Shades. I think A-Mike socks should be pre-emptively wiped out and all posts immediately deleted. The only reason why he spent the time to write this post was because he got away with a bunch of other posts from other socks, and even got a rule change. Same with binger being constrained to another forum, it would be better to just ban him until he can keep the rules in all the forums. otherwise it gives rise to the impression that these folks are legitimate members of the forum who are being treated unequally from everyone else.

Yes, technically possible to delete this thread. up to the mods, not me of course.
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Ceeboo,

suppose you began to post aggressively on this forum against liberals and Joe Biden and liberal political and scientific positions, according to any strong opinions you may have on these subjects. Suppose you went out to the web and culled the best information that you can find that shows how liberals are wrong and begin to post this material on this forum several times a day.

What is your opinion on the chances you'd get censured or banned for posting these things?
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Makes sense not being detected by long-range sensors if it had been targeted by photon torpedoes after our moderators had detected that it carried virulent materials sent by a hostile lifeform. A-Mike has apparently spawned many mutated replicants designed to harm message boards.

Some would term A-Mike a mad genius, while others would deny the genius part.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:11 am
Ceeboo,

suppose you began to post aggressively on this forum against liberals and Joe Biden and liberal political and scientific positions, according to any strong opinions you may have on these subjects. Suppose you went out to the web and culled the best information that you can find that shows how liberals are wrong and begin to post this material on this forum several times a day.

What is your opinion on the chances you'd get censured or banned for posting these things?
Censured or banned? A pretty low chance, in my opinion.


Gad,

Suppose you began to post aggressively on this forum against Christians, Trump, right-wingers, and political conservatives. Suppose you labeled all of these people as morons, fascists cuckolded ex Mormon Trump supporters, Trump-tards, people who are too stupid to debate, people who have nothing interesting to say, and people with impotent rage. Suppose you began to mock and insult these people constantly. Suppose you suggested that one male conservative sucked the ding dong of another conservative who then placed the male ejaculation on a 3rd conservative's mouth.

In your opinion, what percentage of this board's members would find these suppositions to be funny as crap - Hilarious? And perhaps more importantly, what impact do you think it might have on an individual person who happens to be a Christian - or an individual person who happens to be a conservative - or an individual person who happens to be an ex-Mormon Trump supporter, about their choice to post here and/or their interest in joining this community?
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"Suppose you began to post aggressively on this forum against Christians, Trump, right-wingers, and political conservatives. Suppose you labeled all of these people as morons, fascists cuckolded ex Mormon Trump supporters, Trump-tards, people who are too stupid to debate, people who have nothing interesting to say, and people with impotent rage--"
In other words, suppose I were to reflect the rhetoric of conservative Christians back onto conservative Christians? Rhetoric or humor that I was inundated with the first couple years I lived at my present residence in person, in emails, or through texts? Being called a communist or socialist constantly by people who have never taken a class in economics (and by 'people' I also mean the authors of circulated email content not just my right-wing friend), "libetard" (constantly by my friend), endless fabrications about the next stupid thing California liberals are doing, conspiracy theories about Hollywood liberals eating children by the Q-Trump guy, all kinds of crude sexual humor poking fun at gays or old material that never dies, like the email forwarded to me during the pandemic with a picture of Bill Clinton and Monica and others with photoshopped masks but Monica's has a hole in it. Humor that rarely finds an equivalent in left-wingers, as I've never received a single email of this kind from the left. Accusations, humor and rhetoric that A-Mike engaged in constantly when he could post here -- that kind of posting?
In your opinion, what percentage of this board's members would find these suppositions to be funny as crap - Hilarious?
very low percentage and possibly zero. Most of the regulars are liberals and don't find these kinds of things funny and it takes a certain personality to pull off crude humor that I don't have. However, I'm not a liberal, and so the fact that I appreciate said humor if I feel the target is justified probably can't be generalized to other posters here.
And perhaps more importantly, what impact do you think it might have on an individual person who happens to be a Christian - or an individual person who happens to be a conservative - or an individual person who happens to be an ex-Mormon Trump supporter, about their choice to post here and/or their interest in joining this community?
I think it can go either way. Remember Liz? Doc Cam offended her with a single wise-crack and she left. Up until then she made few attempts at arguments and mostly posted neo-Nazi memes. At one point I was a little worried Physics Guy was going to leave because of how offensive her posts were, as the mods let it go. On the other hand, look at A-Mike. Many conservatives are fired-up culture warriors who are looking for conflict. With the exception of Liz, all the other posters who have been offended and left by liberal cruelty are A-Mikes sock-puppets. If I were to post the way you suggest, then A-Mike would try even harder to get back in so he could respond.

There is a fundamental tension between the two ways you are painting the world. On the one hand, the claim is that conservatives are banned and censured. On the other, conservatives aren't welcomed and leave on their own. Truth Social doesn't exist because a bunch of conservatives felt unwanted and left because liberals were being mean.
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