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Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:01 am
by Nomomo
Gunnar wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:14 am
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:59 am
Oh, come ON! This whole thing reeks of a lame conspiracy theory. Donald Trump is hardly far-sighted enough to come up with a sweeping plan like this.
Maybe Trump himself isn't, but I don't think it unreasonable to conclude that many of his most prominent supporters and enablers have precisely that in mind, and see him as a useful idiot or tool to help accomplish it.
Exactly!

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:47 pm
by Res Ipsa
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:59 am
Oh, come ON! This whole thing reeks of a lame conspiracy theory. Donald Trump is hardly far-sighted enough to come up with a sweeping plan like this.
The project is created by the Heritage Foundation. It has its own website. https://www.project2025.org You can read the plan, which is presented in excruciating detail. The Foundation boasts that Trump enacted 3/4 of the recommendations it made at the time during his term as president.

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:03 pm
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:47 pm
You can read the plan, which is presented in excruciating detail.
Hey, Res. Got a link to the plan details? I dropped in on the site and did a light search through the menus and obvious links and found nothing but broad/vague descriptions. I’d heard of Project 2025 a few months back and was curious about seeing how serious these folks are about their aims.

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm
by Res Ipsa
canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:03 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:47 pm
You can read the plan, which is presented in excruciating detail.
Hey, Res. Got a link to the plan details? I dropped in on the site and did a light search through the menus and obvious links and found nothing but broad/vague descriptions. I’d heard of Project 2025 a few months back and was curious about seeing how serious these folks are about their aims.
Here you go. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:10 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm
canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:03 pm
Hey, Res. Got a link to the plan details? I dropped in on the site and did a light search through the menus and obvious links and found nothing but broad/vague descriptions. I’d heard of Project 2025 a few months back and was curious about seeing how serious these folks are about their aims.
Here you go. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Page 3 is the money shot with follow-on pages fleshing out the points. If they succeed we’ll be Brazil very quickly. Wild. Instead of emulating happy countries like Norway, we look to become a country where .01% suck up the wealth along with virtually no middle class.

eta - as an aside, technocrat Peter Thiel, who supported Trump in an attempt to dismantle the “administrative state” is backing away from politics because, basically, he lost faith in democracy:

https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=peter ... F2Z812aNO1

I recommend reading The Atlantic article in full.

- Doc

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:04 pm
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm
canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:03 pm
Hey, Res. Got a link to the plan details? I dropped in on the site and did a light search through the menus and obvious links and found nothing but broad/vague descriptions. I’d heard of Project 2025 a few months back and was curious about seeing how serious these folks are about their aims.
Here you go. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Thanks. I’ll don a hazmat suit before opening the link.

Re: Project 2025 - Dangerous Plans For Altering Our Government

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:44 pm
by Jersey Girl
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:59 am
Oh, come ON! This whole thing reeks of a lame conspiracy theory. Donald Trump is hardly far-sighted enough to come up with a sweeping plan like this.
You're right, he couldn't come up with a plan like that. But he's smart and shifty enough to kiss the behind of anyone whose agenda he thinks will lead to empowering and further enriching him.