What will Kamalanomics look like?

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Inflation is largely due to a combination of corporate greed and profit-seeking behavior. It’s amazing to me that a Trumpist hates capitalism.

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So, from this research, the authors find that three main components explain the rise in inflation since 2020: volatility of energy prices, backlogs of work orders for goods and service caused by supply chain issues due to COVID-19, and price changes in the auto-related industries.
Volatility of energy prices- thanks to the green new scam and the war on fossil fuels

backlog of work orders for goods and service caused by supply chain issues due to COVID-19- a gross overreaction to a virus with a 99.96% survival rate for people under 70 who weren't immunocompromised or other comorbidities. As you know I was against these shutdown measures from the start and was told I had blood on my hands because of it. You chose poverty over death of a very small percentage of people. I don't think that's a good deal. I wouldn't have shut anything down even if it killed 30% of the population. You bankrupted us for 0.04%.

price changes in auto-related industries- expensive electric cars that you have to buy again in 5 years when the battery dies. They also don't do miuch to help the environment. But hey, if we throw enough American taxpayer money at it, we'll find green energy cheaper than fossil fuels that might keep the global temperature down 0.25 degrees over the next 100 years. Actually it won't even do that since there is no global commitment. Another great deal for the American worker given to us by our politicians.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:33 pm
Inflation is largely due to a combination of corporate greed and profit-seeking behavior. It’s amazing to me that a Trumpist hates capitalism.

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Were corporations somehow less greedy in 2019?
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Your disrespect isn't in the fact that you can continue to ask questions that you aren't interested in the answers to. Your disrespect is in that fact that you asked questions like this:
So how much will a dollar be worth after four more years of these people being in power?
I showed you a graph that puts you in a four-way fork at least, and then your response to that is to demand that I believe a black journalist's ideology dictates what Harris is going to do as president (when according to your people, Harris isn't even black).

I also answered other questions you had about supply chain issues by citing and linking to a paper. None of that deflected your path in the least and in response, you throw a wall of outrage, again, demanding that I accept that this black journalist is secretly revealing Harris' plan. Your demand even contradicts your own position above where you dictate that we should estimate the next four years based on the previous four years of Biden's presidency.

Now, to course correct, and be more respectful, you're not going to engage or even acknowledge the answers I've already given you -- which you have been capable of looking up yourself in the last four years if you had any interest in the answers whatsoever -- but you're asking me ANOTHER QUESTION of the same variety I have been answering and you have been ignoring.

Do you understand the question you're asking? What does it mean to print money? Over what time frame? What do you mean by "we"? I'm looking at a graph of M2 right now from 2015 to 2024.

If M2 is the gauge -- it's the "money supply" -- then Trump printed 6 Trillion (2017 to 2021; 2 trillion prior to Covid) because the money supply rose by 6 trillion. From 2021 until present, Joe Biden personally printed 2 trillion initially, and then over the next year, burned 1 trillion, for a net printing of 1 trillion.

According to the (right-wing) quantity theory of money, more money "printed" means more inflation simpliciter, and if that's true, supply chain issues mean nothing, then it's all you right-wing pro-Trump extremists who ought to be worried about a Trump presidency. One million net printed vs. six million by Trump. Ya'll ought to seriously be thinking about ditching the Handmaid's tale and joining us in Kamalot.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:40 pm
So, from this research, the authors find that three main components explain the rise in inflation since 2020: volatility of energy prices, backlogs of work orders for goods and service caused by supply chain issues due to COVID-19, and price changes in the auto-related industries.
Volatility of energy prices- thanks to the green new scam and the war on fossil fuels
We're literally producing more domestic oil under Biden than we have at any time in history. Not only more than we have at any point, but more than any country on earth.

Trump decimated domestic oil with his first OPEC deal, and further screwed Americans over with his second OPEC deal. Ironically, his deal which had an expiration date well into Biden's administration was one of the drivers of the high gas prices that were blamed solely on Biden.

It's like Trump's Afghan fumble. He makes a deal that someone else has to then suffer the consequences of, and then blames that person for the consequences of his own actions.

War on fossil fuels, lol. Apparently, the battle plan is the concede all territory.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:43 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:33 pm
Inflation is largely due to a combination of corporate greed and profit-seeking behavior. It’s amazing to me that a Trumpist hates capitalism.

- Doc
Were corporations somehow less greedy in 2019?
Sure. Then they figured out how to more effectively collude. Do you not have a have a damned search engine that you can use without being force fed information by your entertainment services?
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:47 pm
Your disrespect isn't in the fact that you can continue to ask questions that you aren't interested in the answers to. Your disrespect is in that fact that you asked questions like this:
So how much will a dollar be worth after four more years of these people being in power?
I showed you a graph that puts you in a four-way fork at least, and then your response to that is to demand that I believe a black journalist's ideology dictates what Harris is going to do as president (when according to your people, Harris isn't even black).

I also answered other questions you had about supply chain issues by citing and linking to a paper. None of that deflected your path in the least and in response, you throw a wall of outrage, again, demanding that I accept that this black journalist is secretly revealing Harris' plan. Your demand even contradicts your own position above where you dictate that we should estimate the next four years based on the previous four years of Biden's presidency.

Now, to course correct, and be more respectful, you're not going to engage or even acknowledge the answers I've already given you -- which you have been capable of looking up yourself in the last four years if you had any interest in the answers whatsoever -- but you're asking me ANOTHER QUESTION of the same variety I have been answering and you have been ignoring.

Do you understand the question you're asking? What does it mean to print money? Over what time frame? What do you mean by "we"? I'm looking at a graph of M2 right now from 2015 to 2024.

If M2 is the gauge -- it's the "money supply" -- then Trump printed 6 Trillion (2017 to 2021; 2 trillion prior to Covid) because the money supply rose by 6 trillion. From 2021 until present, Joe Biden personally printed 2 trillion initially, and then over the next year, burned 1 trillion, for a net printing of 1 trillion.

According to the (right-wing) quantity theory of money, more money "printed" means more inflation simpliciter, and if that's true, supply chain issues mean nothing, then it's all you right-wing pro-Trump extremists who ought to be worried about a Trump presidency. One million net printed vs. six million by Trump. Ya'll ought to seriously be thinking about ditching the Handmaid's tale and joining us in Kamalot.

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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:40 pm
As you know I was against these shutdown measures from the start and was told I had blood on my hands because of it. You chose poverty over death of a very small percentage of people. I don't think that's a good deal. I wouldn't have shut anything down even if it killed 30% of the population. You bankrupted us for 0.04%.
You say that you wouldn't have shut down, even if doing so would have spared 30% of the population. So, out of your wife and two kids, which one of the three would you have picked to sacrifice?

You're not going to answer this, because you're a disingenuous troll.
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Morley wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:00 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:40 pm
As you know I was against these shutdown measures from the start and was told I had blood on my hands because of it. You chose poverty over death of a very small percentage of people. I don't think that's a good deal. I wouldn't have shut anything down even if it killed 30% of the population. You bankrupted us for 0.04%.
You say that you wouldn't have shut down, even if doing so would have spared 30% of the population. So, out of your wife and two kids, which one of the three would you have picked to sacrifice?

You're not going to answer this, because you're a disingenuous troll.
People didn't pick who to sacrifice during the bubonic plague. They didn't quit going to work either nor did they arrest people for attempting to feed their families without having to go into debt to do it.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Joe Biden personally printed 2 trillion initially, and then over the next year, burned 1 trillion
How did he burn a trillion dollars? Dumb it down for me a little. Who in the president's cabinet orders money to be printed? Is he actually printing cash on a printer or is it on some electronic file?

Well I'll be in Kamalot with you whether I like it or not. I suppose I could always go back to WV and raise my own cattle on my own land. Thankfully it's a red state now.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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