Cenk Uygur

[Doctor Steuss]

Maybe my loss.

I don't think you're missing out on anything from my (brief) sojourn into TYT waters. It's basically the attempted left-wing equivalent of Fox News, or Charlie Kirk, in my opinion.

[Nomomo]

I've never been tempted to listen to Uygur. I'm suspicious of the judgement of someone who chooses to call their channel 'The Young Turks.' The original Young Turks precipitated the Armenian Genocide. He has to be aware the history.

I didn't know that about the original TYT/Armenian Genocide (wonder why he would choose that name?)

Anyway, thanks for answering the OP question.

Because he is of Turkish ancestry. His name "Cenk Uygur" pretty much gives that away.

[Moksha]

I didn't know that about the original TYT/Armenian Genocide (wonder why he would choose that name?)

Anyway, thanks for answering the OP question.

Because he is of Turkish ancestry. His name "Cenk Uygur" pretty much gives that away.

I know of one man, a very important man, perhaps the very best man who would question whether he eats our cats and dogs. They stole an election from this man and now cats and dogs.

[Gadianton]

I don't think you're missing out on anything from my (brief) sojourn into TYT waters. It's basically the attempted left-wing equivalent of Fox News, or Charlie Kirk, in my opinion.

I don't go out of my way to watch TYT but while they're obviously playing for the left and the left is their paycheck, I don't think they are anywhere near Fox News, Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, or Megyn Kelly.

Here's a clip of Cenk explaining the fake elector scheme to Lex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1K094KnFXs

I know Steuss has that subject down, so the question is, how bad did Cenk botch it? If he did a fair job, then the question is, is being a partisan while correctly articulating the facts of a situation, even if they pick and choose their situations, the same as completely making crap up like Dominion voting machines compromised and whatever else?

I don't think the Right has an equivalently good commentator to Cenk, even though I don't think Cenk is anything special necessarily. I find the notion of "trusting" any source to be kind of odd. I do have sources I think are pretty good for a first pass, but if I'm interested in a topic there's nobody on YouTube whose word I take for anything. I'm a huge fan of Peter Zeihan's although I have a crapload of disagreements with him. The thing is, when he posts on a topic, the one thing I'm sure of is it's an important topic and he's probably put a lot of thought into his position on it. So he'd be one of my top tier starting points.

[Moksha]

I don't think the Right has an equivalently good commentator to Cenk, ...

Only if you're the type who cares about distinguishing between lies and truth. Otherwise, the Right also has words coming out of their mouths.

[Gunnar]

Other than knowing a little bit about TYT and seeing Cenk a few times on a couple of podcasts I watch (One was PBD podcast) - I don't know a lot about his TYT channel or him.

Having said that, I just watched the below linked Piers Morgan Uncensored video (it's a about 70 minutes long)

My question: How many of you are familiar with Cenk? And, if you're willing to share, what do you think about him?

Thanks in advance.

Piers Morgan Uncensored - “You're ALL Guilty!” Candace Owens x Cenk Uygur On Israel, Trump & More

https://youtu.be/IkG6WbNx91I?si=L6WLQFWJw3J2kYsT

I admire much of what they present. They are certainly far more honest, fair and informative than anything coming from Trump and his extreme right sycophants!

[Moksha]

Another view of the panel vs Cenk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCAulO0yySw

[Gunnar]

It is increasingly obvious to me that Cenk Uygur and TYT are dead right about the current situation with Israel Hamas and Palestinian conflict. Netanyahu has become one of if not THE main obstacle to a satisfactory and just solution to this awful catastrophe.

U.S. Officials Make DEVASTATING Admission About Gaza

While there is no doubt that Hamas is horrible, terrorist organization who deserves worldwide condemnation for what they did to their Israeli victims and hostages, it can't be denied that Netanyahu's refusal to consider or negotiate a cease fire is the main obstacle to obtaining the release of the remaining hostages, and will very likely mean the eventual death of many if not all of the remaining hostages.

If it is not yet clear to you that Netanyahu's main motivation is his own lust for power and (much as with the case of Trump) to avoid just prosecution for his own misdeeds, then you have just not been paying attention. His own citizens are turning against him and his biggest critics of his handling of the situation are the friends and relatives of the remaining hostages. If Hamas are brutal terrorists (which they clearly are), then Netanyahu and his enablers are 30 times worse, because 30 times more Gazans, including women and children, have been killed by Israel and its IDF. Does anyone really believe a significant proportion of the huge number of Gazans (especially the children and mothers) killed were actual Hamas?

I think Cenk is right that Biden would have a good chance of ameliorating the tragedy and bringing it to an end if he threatened to sharply curtail any more aid to Israel unless they immediately agreed to enter into good faith negotiations towards a cease fire agreement. Netanyahu, on the other hand, seems determined to further escalate this stupid war, even if it risks the death of all the remaining hostages. It seems that Biden, Harris and Trump are all agreed on supporting Netanyahu's refusal (so far) to a cease fire.

Netanyahu knows that he will lose the extreme right-wing conservatives he needs to stay in power, and will likely wind up in jail himself, if he moderates his position. He is at least as much a war criminal now as Hamas, and Putin. Biden and Harris find themselves caught in a catch-22 situation. If they pressure Israel to ease their attacks on Gaza and agree to a cease fire and support humanitarian aid for deeply suffering Gazans, Trump and his cronies will accuse them of antisemitism and abandoning Israel. If they don't do that, Trump will attempt to place the entire blame for the inevitable escalation of the resulting war on them.

[Gunnar]

Another view of the panel vs Cenk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCAulO0yySw

Cenk was 100% right in what he said, and the other three were in complete denial of the reality of how dishonest and despicable Trump really is. The ex-Navy Seal, Prince, even went so far as to repeat the thoroughly debunked claim that the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband was merely a spat between two elderly homosexual lovers. There was never even the slightest evidence or justification for that claim--as if there was something necessarily sinister about her husband being dressed only in his night-time clothes or underwear in the wee hours of the morning in the privacy of his locked and alarm system protected home! Pierce Morgan, Candace Owens and the ex-Navy Seal all only succeeded in making fools of themselves, whether they realized it or not! And all of them merely glossed over and tried to dismiss very real examples of right-wing violence pointed out by Cenk.

[Dr. Shades]

I think Cenk is right that Biden would have a good chance of ameliorating the tragedy and bringing it to an end if he threatened to sharply curtail any more aid to Israel unless they immediately agreed to enter into good faith negotiations towards a cease fire agreement.

Why are we giving Israel any aid in the first place?