It is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president than Donald Trump

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Re: It is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president of than Donald Trump

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:35 am
Speaking of Fox Entertainment:

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Well, yeah.

Just in case anyone want to read the unsealed filing:

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/s ... .252.0.pdf
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Manetho wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:32 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:04 am
It's pretty simple. Only ignorant, stupid, belligerent and insane people will vote for Trump.
Most people on this board should know, far better than I do, that it's hard to break out of cult conditioning.
I suppose it is for a lot of people. Still, if one cares about what's true, they will seek truth out rather than continue to keep investing in sunk cost.

It's alarming and obvious how unqualified Trump is, and yet millions of Americans are willing to ignore that for one idiotic reason or another (idiotic from a political analysis standpoint). I suspect most people will vote for him because they're ignorant to how much of a threat he poses; ignorance has to be the primary reason. But if you're stuck in a cult, it's because you lack the intellectual honesty and curiosity to question it.

So yeah, for all these morons screaming for their team (mostly team GOP), I have to conclude they fit into at least one of the categories I mentioned above. The GOP has been skating on their Reagan-conservative reputations for years now, and the party no longer resembles that reputation, so what other reasons could there be?
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:23 am
it's because you lack the intellectual honesty and curiosity to question it.
Nailed it right there. Also when you become too comfortable with people telling you what you want to hear that that becomes enough for you. Of course, all of that is calculated. And it works.

It's kind of like folks sitting in church nodding their heads at what the Pastor is saying without ever opening their Bible to check the accuracy or the context in which a certain thing was said.
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Re: It is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president of than Donald Trump

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:04 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:23 am
if you're stuck in a cult, t's because you lack the intellectual honesty and curiosity to question it.
Nailed it right there. Also when you become too comfortable with people telling you what you want to hear that that becomes enough for you. Of course, all of that is calculated. And it works.
I have a question for the two of you.

What can be done for these 90,000,000 Americans that are stuck in this cult (a.k.a. Trump voters) that, as proposed, lack intellectual honesty and are comfortable with people telling them what they want to hear? How can these 90,000,000 Americans become enlightened so that they can become intellectually honest like the two of you? What can be done to cause these 90 million Americans to start being a little curious?

Given the enormous number of Americans that are intrenched in this cult, I think it's going to be an significant challenge to get them out. Perhaps we could lock them all up in a room at force them to watch The View and MSNBC for 72 hours straight. Do you think that might work?

If not, what would work, in your view?
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:27 am
I have a question for the two of you.

What can be done for these 90,000,000 Americans that are stuck in this cult (a.k.a. Trump voters) that, as proposed, lack intellectual honesty and are comfortable with people telling them what they want to hear? How can these 90,000,000 Americans become enlightened so that they can become intellectually honest like the two of you? What can be done to cause these 90 million Americans to start being a little curious?

Given the enormous number of Americans that are intrenched in this cult, I think it's going to be an significant challenge to get them out. Perhaps we could lock them all up in a room at force them to watch The View and MSNBC for 72 hours straight. Do you think that might work?

If not, what would work, in your view?
Did you notice that Neil Cavuto on FOX was reporting that Donald Trump resorted to crime to overturn the 2020 election? Neil Cavuto. On FOX. What do you think the reaction of FOX viewers to such reporting will be?
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:11 am
Just take a second and imagine calling 80-90 million American citizens ignorant, stupid, belligerent, insane, haters of America, traitors, and moronic.

Just imagine that.
If you are having trouble imagining it I found a clip that might help you visualize it. Someone calling one side of the aisle un-American, treasonous, and that they don't seem to love America. I did indeed find it troubling.

https://youtu.be/o3f1wYbhVC4?si=Q-bo4oHLqjj48d-Z&t=58
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What can be done for these 90,000,000 Americans that are stuck in this cult (a.k.a. Trump voters)
80-90 million, 90 million less than 12 hours later, tomorrow it will be 100 million, by the time the election rolls around it could be as high as a billion. Trump can only claim 74.2 million voters, but I'm one of those people that Trump has got me so deranged I like my facts to back up my hyperbole.
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Re: It is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president of than Donald Trump

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:08 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:27 am
I have a question for the two of you.

What can be done for these 90,000,000 Americans that are stuck in this cult (a.k.a. Trump voters) that, as proposed, lack intellectual honesty and are comfortable with people telling them what they want to hear? How can these 90,000,000 Americans become enlightened so that they can become intellectually honest like the two of you? What can be done to cause these 90 million Americans to start being a little curious?

Given the enormous number of Americans that are intrenched in this cult, I think it's going to be an significant challenge to get them out. Perhaps we could lock them all up in a room at force them to watch The View and MSNBC for 72 hours straight. Do you think that might work?

If not, what would work, in your view?
Did you notice that Neil Cavuto on FOX was reporting that Donald Trump resorted to crime to overturn the 2020 election? Neil Cavuto. On FOX. What do you think the reaction of FOX viewers to such reporting will be?
It's hard to say what the reaction of Fox viewers will be - Fox viewers are composed of a lot of individual people. If I had to guess, I would guess that some of them (the majority of Fox viewers being politically right) will be hesitant to draw any conclusions - some of them will reject it completely - and some of them will take a closer look at the suggestion.

In any case, I don't think much can sway the position of most people (on either side) at this point. The country is very much divided and the citizens, by and large, see their nominee as the best way forward and they see the opposing nominee, by and large, as someone who may literally destroy this country.

So, each of us get to make a choice and cast our vote. If Harris wins, I will accept her as our President and I will be hopeful (not confident) that she will be good for America, good for the world, and equally good for all of us who are fortunate enough to be Americans.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:27 am
I have a question for the two of you.
No you don't.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:47 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:35 am
Speaking of Fox Entertainment:

Image

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Well, yeah.

Just in case anyone want to read the unsealed filing:

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/s ... .252.0.pdf
Thanks for the link. Wow. First paragraph:
The defendant asserts that he is immune from prosecution for his criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 presidential election because, he claims, it entailed official conduct. Not so. Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one. Working with a team of private co-conspirators, the defendant acted as a candidate when he pursued multiple criminal means to disrupt, through fraud and deceit, the government function by which votes are collected and counted—a function in which the defendant, as President, had no official role.
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