Where are ajax18 and the trolls?

[ajax18]

And if they don't what is the point of all the killing, and the huge expense.

It's aggressive negotiations for the purpose of protecting America from a 46 year old terrorist enemy. Better that than the Obama administration sending over jumbo jet loads of cash in exchange for a false promise from Iran to stop trying to get a nuclear weapon to use on America, or the weakness shown by the Carter administration that allowed the Ayatollahs to get entrenched in power.

[canpakes]

And if they don't what is the point of all the killing, and the huge expense.

It's aggressive negotiations for the purpose of protecting America from a 46 year old terrorist enemy. Better that than the Obama administration sending over jumbo jet loads of cash in exchange for a false promise from Iran to stop trying to get a nuclear weapon to use on America, or the weakness shown by the Carter administration that allowed the Ayatollahs to get entrenched in power.

1. The cash sent over was their own money.
2. Speaking of enemies … Russia has been a bit of an enemy - terrorist or otherwise - for more than 46 years. They’ve killed significantly more people in just the last few years than any stack of mullahs that you can point a tomahawk at. Trump’s war with Iran means that many billions more dollars are now flowing into Putin’s coffers and Trump has even relaxed sanctions on Russia so that other nations can buy Russian oil. Why are you suddenly favoring this action? Why would you want to see Putin strengthened through suddenly waging an ill-timed war against an 86-year-old guy who would’ve probably died in a year anyway if not taken out on the first day of an air campaign?

Given that Khamenei was killed during the first 5 minutes of hostilities, what are we still trying to accomplish two weeks later?

For a guy always griping about taxes, you’re oddly silent about spending billions and billions of dollars taking out a decrepit senior citizen while simultaneously strengthening our greatest enemy, in the midst of the highest debt this nation has ever experienced.

I don’t see how MAGA has any moral or logical consistency. Y’all just seem to enthusiastically rubber stamp whatever the whiny, makeup-wearing narcissist wants to do between his bouts of bulldozing buildings, stamping his name on things, and jacking up your food, health, housing and energy costs. So odd.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

By destabilizing the Middle East and driving up global energy, food and transportation prices, the U.S. is padding Putin’s treasury. It's inconsistent for Ajax and MAGA to support the high-cost (35 billion so far by some estimates) elimination of an ancient crippled figurehead like Khamenei, while completely ignoring the financial strengthening of a far more capable and even evil adversary in Moscow.

If Ajax and MAGA's goal is truly "America First," it makes zero sense to burn through billions and billions in taxpayer dollars to remove Khamenei while the national debt soars, domestic costs of living rises and we are moving fast towards an economic recession.

[Philo Sofee]

And if they don't what is the point of all the killing, and the huge expense.

It's aggressive negotiations for the purpose of protecting America from a 46 year old terrorist enemy. Better that than the Obama administration sending over jumbo jet loads of cash in exchange for a false promise from Iran to stop trying to get a nuclear weapon to use on America, or the weakness shown by the Carter administration that allowed the Ayatollahs to get entrenched in power.

Your ignorance is astonishing. Obama actually had the AGREEMENT with Iran and Trump tore it up. How can you constantly be so backwards?! Treaties are not weaknesses, fighting is not strength at all times. What a warmonger philosophy you have been brainwashed into believing. Had Trump sent someone who knew about international negotiations and knowledge of Iran instead of Dumb and Dumber with Kushner and what's his f***, they were in the middle of negotiations when Trump attacked. He's is a traitor. No wonder Iran is pissed. Who other than a retard attacks in the middle of negotiations which Iran had given them a better deal than he had given Obama?! What a f***tard Trump is. But then what else can we expect from a maggat than sheer ignorance and stupidity?

[Gunnar]

It's aggressive negotiations for the purpose of protecting America from a 46 year old terrorist enemy. Better that than the Obama administration sending over jumbo jet loads of cash in exchange for a false promise from Iran to stop trying to get a nuclear weapon to use on America, or the weakness shown by the Carter administration that allowed the Ayatollahs to get entrenched in power.

Your ignorance is astonishing. Obama actually had the AGREEMENT with Iran and Trump tore it up. How can you constantly be so backwards?! Treaties are not weaknesses, fighting is not strength at all times. What a warmonger philosophy you have been brainwashed into believing. Had Trump sent someone who knew abut international negotiations and knowledge of Iran instead of Dumb and Dumber with Kushner and what's his f***, they were in the middle of negotiations when Trump attacked. He's is a traitor. No wonder Iran is pissed. Who other than a retard attacks in the middle of negotiations which Iran had given them a better deal than he had given Obama?! What a f***tard Trump is. But then what else can we expect from a maggat than sheer ignorance and stupidity?

You couldn't be more right! The magnitude of Ajax's ignorance is only becoming ever more astonishing with almost every post he makes! Trump couldn't be helping Putin more if that was his actual intent, which I have long ago been convinced actually is his intent!

[Gunnar]

It's aggressive negotiations for the purpose of protecting America from a 46 year old terrorist enemy. Better that than the Obama administration sending over jumbo jet loads of cash in exchange for a false promise from Iran to stop trying to get a nuclear weapon to use on America, or the weakness shown by the Carter administration that allowed the Ayatollahs to get entrenched in power.

Who other than a retard attacks in the middle of negotiations which Iran had given them a better deal than he had given Obama?! What a f***tard Trump is. But then what else can we expect from a maggat than sheer ignorance and stupidity?

It's highly reminiscent of Japan's perfidy when they attacked Pearl Harbor while they were in peace negotiations with the U.S. State Dept.

[Philo Sofee]

Who other than a retard attacks in the middle of negotiations which Iran had given them a better deal than he had given Obama?! What a f***tard Trump is. But then what else can we expect from a maggat than sheer ignorance and stupidity?

It's highly reminiscent of Japan's perfidy when they attacked Pearl Harbor while they were in peace negotiations with the U.S. State Dept.

Exactly. And I suppose in Ajax's ignorant mind the U.S. surrendered and let the Japanese come and bomb the continental U.S. too, and they actually did use Nukes on 2 of our cities and we fought back and Ajax thinks that was immoral and wrong of us. We should have just let them come on in. And was America immoral and wrong to have the japanese concentration camps on U.S. soil? No, of course not. In his warped stupor of thought, any heinous crime may be committed during war.

[ajax18]

Given that Khamenei was killed during the first 5 minutes of hostilities, what are we still trying to accomplish two weeks later?

Getting someone to lead Iran who is not the son of the Ayatollah would be a start. 2 weeks isn't what I would call an endless war as the Democrats currently are calling this current conflict with Iran. That being said, I firmly believe that we need to stay until the job is done and Iran has paid for the war.

For a guy always griping about taxes, you’re oddly silent about spending billions and billions of dollars taking out a decrepit senior citizen while simultaneously strengthening our greatest enemy, in the midst of the highest debt this nation has ever experienced.

A safer America and oil supply not controlled by a hostile regime that likes to harass commercial ships is a benefit to everyone, while welfare benefits nobody except the politicians who dole it out in exchange for votes. The debt is due to the left's COVID mandates, PPE loans, and shutdowns. These shutdowns were undoubtedly carried out to cripple the US economy and prevent Trump from being reelected president in 2020. You only care about the national debt inasmuch as you can use it to hurt Trump politically.

[Chap]

Given that Khamenei was killed during the first 5 minutes of hostilities, what are we still trying to accomplish two weeks later?

Getting someone to lead Iran who is not the son of the Ayatollah would be a start. 2 weeks isn't what I would call an endless war as the Democrats currently are calling this current conflict with Iran. That being said, I firmly believe that we need to stay until the job is done and Iran has paid for the war.

You have told us what would be a start. But if you are conducting a war, it is common knowledge that you have to have an objective representing what you are take as the end.

What, specifically, are the concrete things, capably of being objectively determined,* that need to happen in order for you to say that you have achieved your war aims, and stop the war? If you cannot, then you risk pouring money and blood into a bottomless pit.

* meaning, not stuff like 'the Iranians don't hate America any more'. I don't say that would not be nice, but the problem is that there is no objective way to say whether it is true or not.

[canpakes]

For a guy always griping about taxes, you’re oddly silent about spending billions and billions of dollars taking out a decrepit senior citizen while simultaneously strengthening our greatest enemy, in the midst of the highest debt this nation has ever experienced.

A safer America and oil supply not controlled by a hostile regime that likes to harass commercial ships is a benefit to everyone, while welfare benefits nobody except the politicians who dole it out in exchange for votes.

Right. I forgot. Folks who want to roll coal need the diesel they’re wasting to be cheap, but kids in families receiving SNAP benefits might deserve to go hungry.

I guess that both groups seem to be voting with their wallets. Just for different priorities.