Republicans have to Cheat to Win

[_Water Dog]

Well, we shall find out what has happened in those counts pretty soon, won't we?

Somewhere in the country there has to be the most messed-up and ill organised count, and this could just be it.

Do you have any alternative proposals apart from waiting to see? (I do hope you don't ...)

Or we won't, if it all went into a paper shredder.

[_Water Dog]

Listen to those crickets....

For not lighting our hair on fire over your idiot conspiracy theorists' tweets?

Kevin, your hair is always on fire.

[_EAllusion]

Listen to those crickets....

The Florida Democrats are talking this up heavily because they believe it's a machine tabulating error and they've actually got a bunch of ballots that will be picked up in the recount. That's the opposite of "crickets."

[_EAllusion]

On a separate note, I think you said McSally locked it up. The Arizona GOP is currently suing to prevent mail in ballots from being counted which suggests they aren’t 100% confident in a win yet.

Sinema is now up in the official count, so there you go.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 931573002/

[_Kevin Graham]

Listen to those crickets....

The Florida Democrats are talking this up heavily because they believe it's a machine tabulating error and they've actually got a bunch of ballots that will be picked up in the recount. That's the opposite of "crickets."

Yeah, I was living in Orlando during the hanging chads debacle, but I always seemed to remember those counties leaned Democrat.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

On a separate note, I think you said McSally locked it up. The Arizona GOP is currently suing to prevent mail in ballots from being counted which suggests they aren’t 100% confident in a win yet.

Sinema is now up in the official count, so there you go.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 931573002/

Yeah, on the 5th (or 6th?) I thought McSally had beaten Sinema. I was surprised mail-in ballots went Sinema's way. Whatever the case may be if she doesn't extend her lead there'll be a recount and we get the Arizona version of Gore-Bush.

eta: KG made a good point about the Green Party, too. Democrats have them to thank for the close call.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

eta: Kevin Graham made a good point about the Green Party, too. Democrats have them to thank for the close call.

- Doc

It's a net roots activist turned blue dog Democrat's worst nightmare.

[_Kevin Graham]

Ok, so wtf is going on in Florida?? I'm hearing Rick Scott has sent state police in to investigate and count votes.

[_Kevin Graham]

Sinema is up .5% now by 9,600 votes with 99% of precincts reporting.

[_EAllusion]

Ok, so wtf is going on in Florida?? I'm hearing Rick Scott has sent state police in to investigate and count votes.

Broward County are taking their time on counting ballots. Republicans, and Rick Scott specifically, are claiming its a conspiracy to steal the election based on nothing but this fact and a false belief / lie among Republicans that Democrats engage in mass-scale fraud as a matter of course. Mathematically, there should be a bunch more Democratic votes there just based on turnout models. It's hypothetically enough to flip Scott's Senate lead and has a very slim chance of flipping the governor's race as well.

At the same time, the county shows a ton of ballots that voted for the Govenor's race, but not the Senate race in its official tally. Based on demographic trends around the state, it's extremely unlikely this is because of a microtrend just within that county. Ballot design has been floated as a possible explanation, but even that shouldn't produce the magnitude of trend observed. Republicans are stating or implying this is because Democrat election officials in the county are manipulating the tallies. Democrats, for their part, think there is an error undercounting Senate votes. If *that* is true, then on top of the still to be counted ballots, Nelson is very likely to win.