Physics Guy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:19 am
If that principle's true, it must still have some limits, somewhere far short of reeducation camps. And if there is some responsibility of all citizens to pay attention to some things, which things those are is definitely up for debate. The things which have had a free pass to public attention until now—the big statues on pedestals in public places, the talking heads on TV—I don't think they've all earned their attention legitimately. A lot have just been grandfathered in, it seems to me, on the strength of old privilege. The public attention they get is a precious resource that we should be spending more wisely than that.
This is the funny thing. We may be discovering that things getting attention get attention for a reason, and by figuring out the why and dealing with it in practical terms we may not need to block people at all. This is how I view the LDS Church's current crisis of hemorrhaging members. If they had paid any attention to what makes people enjoy being Mormon, instead of making the Church into a dreary obligation, they might not be having the problems they have. If they were at all responsive to change, change wouldn't be whipping their asses. But they aren't, and it does.
Identitarian politics are a losing game. They have been for a very, very long time. They didn't work so well in Nazi Germany, at the end of the day. I am guessing there are a host of reasons why this is the case. One of them is probably that splitting people into granular identities is no way to build coalitions of consensus or bring about any kind of equality. Why would any rational person want to buy into being the loser in the new hierarchy of identities? They will just go off and make up new identities and find their little click of people who identify in that way only to hang around and dwindle in irrelevance as people wake up to discover their new identity got them nowhere.
How ironic that Leftists, of anyone, should embrace such a strategy! Identitarian politics are very effective in the short term, but in the long term they will be an utter disaster. The Democratic Party finds them a useful rallying point while they put ineffective bandaids on our economic problems. They fear the economic Left of their party gathering real steam, so Identitarian politics are a handy distraction from economic issues. Hypothetically, a billionaire who doesn't want to pay taxes can metaphorically join hands with the poor, gay Black teenager over issues of identity without the billionaire having to do a damned thing about the economic plight of that teen. The billionaire will still pay that kid crap and refuse to pay anymore taxes that might give that kid a social safety net, all the while being praised for being "Woke."
I say we stop thinking that we must make rules against being an asshole and just let the assholes shoot themselves in the foot. If your friend says I am now a woman and you behave like an asshole in response, then karma is a bitch and you will get yours for being an asshole. The kind and good thing to do, in my opinion, is to respect people's choices. If we have to get down to the level of making everything a matter for the law to intervene in, the backlash is clear: you are going to have a large swath of the electorate telling you to eff off. Similarly, let Nazis and pedophiles have the podium, and they will shoot themselves in the foot every time. What makes being a Nazi repugnant is Nazism. You can't put lipstick on that pig. No parent is ever going to tolerate the legalization of pedophilia. It just ain't gonna happen.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”