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Perhaps.

Or it could be that mega oligopolist Walmart doesn't want the populist wave to gain ground. Populism "dangerously" leads to more antitrust litigation. Even so, prices coming down is always a welcome outcome to whatever causes it. Let's see what happens next. Will there be pressure on wages now? Will the more important disposable income number go down as well? Rising wages while prices lower rarely happens.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:06 pm
Christianity allows the earner/worker to decide when and if to give away his earnings.
If I don't pay my taxes, I might go to temporal jail for a finite amount of time.

If I don't pay my tithing, I might go to spiritual jail for an infinite amount of time.

Yup, one of those definitely seems completely non-compulsory compared to the other.
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No, Christianity has noted that coins bear the image of Caesar, and told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. Jesus didn’t pronounce on many political issues but he explicitly endorsed paying taxes.
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Gunnar wrote:
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Even if there really is to be a second coming of Christ, which will almost certainly never happen, there is no excuse for delaying striving to correct the problems we face and making this a world a safer, greener, freer, more democratic, less despotic, more compassionate, and less polluted world. Waiting for the second coming of Christ to address these problems will have devastating consequences for the entire planet, whether or not there ever is an actual second coming of Christ.
At the second coming Jesus is not going to say , well the place is a mess but at least you said and some shouted
my name a lot. I really appreciate that because believing in my story is most important.

No. He will say the place is a damn mess it is time for you to start fixing it. Clean the garbage, help your neighbors, contribute to the society you live in.
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Hey Steuss! :)
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:19 pm
If I don't pay my tithing, I might go to spiritual jail for an infinite amount of time.
For what it's worth: Tithing is not a thing for Bible believing Christians. Tithing was an Old Testament thing (ancient Israel) - In practice, the other eleven tribes where to give 10% of their proceeds to the Levites. In return, the Levites were responsible for things related to the Temple as well as spiritual/priestly things. In short, tithing was for a specific people, at a specific time, and for a specific purpose.

Biblically speaking, Christians are commanded to be joyful givers (generous with their money/time and are commanded to help those less fortunate in many ways) but, even though some Christian pastors/churches today suggest tithing is a thing for Christians, it is not.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:36 pm
Perhaps.

Or it could be that mega oligopolist Walmart doesn't want the populist wave to gain ground. Populism "dangerously" leads to more antitrust litigation. Even so, prices coming down is always a welcome outcome to whatever causes it. Let's see what happens next. Will there be pressure on wages now? Will the more important disposable income number go down as well? Rising wages while prices lower rarely happens.
DO you think Walmart is going to start telling their $15 per hour employees that they will now be making $12?

When has that EVER happened? Once wages are set, they don't go back down.
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ceeboo wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:26 pm
Hey Steuss! :)
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:19 pm
If I don't pay my tithing, I might go to spiritual jail for an infinite amount of time.
For what it's worth: Tithing is not a thing for Bible believing Christians. Tithing was an Old Testament thing (ancient Israel) - In practice, the other eleven tribes where to give 10% of their proceeds to the Levites. In return, the Levites were responsible for things related to the Temple as well as spiritual/priestly things. In short, tithing was for a specific people, at a specific time, and for a specific purpose.

Biblically speaking, Christians are commanded to be joyful givers (generous with their money/time and are commanded to help those less fortunate in many ways) but, even though some Christian pastors/churches today suggest tithing is a thing for Christians, it is not.
Good point. For Bible believing Christians, it's required to give up all of one's wealth and possessions, and not just 10%. At least if one hopes to be perfected in Christ and receive His treasures in heaven.

Christ and his higher laws were sure rascally. Can't even look at someone's booty-butt-cheeks without committing adultery. Old Testament times, I'd at least have to commit the actual deed. Then again, there's all that stoning to death stuff... so I guess it's kind of a give and take.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:38 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:26 pm
Hey Steuss! :)

For what it's worth: Tithing is not a thing for Bible believing Christians. Tithing was an Old Testament thing (ancient Israel) - In practice, the other eleven tribes where to give 10% of their proceeds to the Levites. In return, the Levites were responsible for things related to the Temple as well as spiritual/priestly things. In short, tithing was for a specific people, at a specific time, and for a specific purpose.

Biblically speaking, Christians are commanded to be joyful givers (generous with their money/time and are commanded to help those less fortunate in many ways) but, even though some Christian pastors/churches today suggest tithing is a thing for Christians, it is not.
Good point. For Bible believing Christians, it's required to give up all of one's wealth and possessions, and not just 10%. At least if one hopes to be perfected in Christ and receive His treasures in heaven.

Christ and his higher laws were sure rascally. Can't even look at someone's booty-butt-cheeks without committing adultery. Old Testament times, I'd at least have to commit the actual deed. Then again, there's all that stoning to death stuff... so I guess it's kind of a give and take.
Considering your reply, I regret sharing my view, as a Bible believing Christian, concerning tithing.

I will resist the temptation to offer my perspective in the future.
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ceeboo wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:46 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:38 pm

Good point. For Bible believing Christians, it's required to give up all of one's wealth and possessions, and not just 10%. At least if one hopes to be perfected in Christ and receive His treasures in heaven.

Christ and his higher laws were sure rascally. Can't even look at someone's booty-butt-cheeks without committing adultery. Old Testament times, I'd at least have to commit the actual deed. Then again, there's all that stoning to death stuff... so I guess it's kind of a give and take.
Considering your reply, I regret sharing my view, as a Bible believing Christian, concerning tithing.

I will resist the temptation to offer my perspective in the future.
You disagree that Christ taught to sell all possessions and give to the poor, rather than only 10%, as part of His higher law?

Perhaps I misunderstand what the juxtaposition of believing the Bible, and being a Christian is exactly.
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Vēritās wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:28 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:36 pm
Perhaps.

Or it could be that mega oligopolist Walmart doesn't want the populist wave to gain ground. Populism "dangerously" leads to more antitrust litigation. Even so, prices coming down is always a welcome outcome to whatever causes it. Let's see what happens next. Will there be pressure on wages now? Will the more important disposable income number go down as well? Rising wages while prices lower rarely happens.
DO you think Walmart is going to start telling their $15 per hour employees that they will now be making $12?

When has that EVER happened? Once wages are set, they don't go back down.
Here is a chart showing how wages lost to inflation for some time. It can and does happen. Distressed businesses negotiate lower wages all the time to avoid bankruptcy.

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Again, its great that supposedly Kamala used her magic to get the oligopolistic Walmart to lower prices, in an election year, where the oligopolists are fighting against the Trump populists. They already killed the Bernie populist wing on the left and now they want to do the same to the tea party right. But perhaps its just Kamala. If Kamala wins and Walmart still reduces prices without cutting wages and or benefits, great. I'm not going to hold my breath, especially when Walmart is concerned. That company is what is wrong with the american economy and the lack of antitrust enforcement over the years.
Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
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