Sworn affidavits do pose legal risk and its why they are considered evidence....but i like you spin on how witness testimony is nothing more than propaganda. You should tell Mueller and Schiff your brilliant legal interpretation....or does it only apply to Republicans?canpakes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:12 pmAffidavits are nice and all, but merely stating things like, “I saw a van stuffed with Biden ballots!!1!’, can still be fiction that carries no legal risk to the person making the affidavit, while offering propaganda value.subgenius wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:06 am
and yes, affidavits (a.k.a. sworn statements) are considered evidence.
... Wayne County elections officials encouraged fraud, including changing legal names and dates on ballots, ballot-harvesting, voter intimidation, and preventing poll watchers from challenging irregularities in the vote-counting process.
And registration irregularities are still not voter fraud, no matter how badly you want to pretend that they are.
Keep looking for those fraudulent votes.
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So, what you're saying is that if it appears on Twitter it isn't true.Icarus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:13 pmThis post was lifted verbatim from two Twitter accounts.subgenius wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:01 am
In Georgia nearly 100% of the voters who disguised a postal facility as their residential address voted absentee, with nearly zero voting on Election Day.
(spoiler alert, using postal facilities as address is not allowed, a.k.a. illegal)
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Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a “burst pipe” at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena that was "the cause" for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.
https://Twitter.com/mattbraynard/status ... 3556086787
https://Twitter.com/chuckcallesto/statu ... 7032867840
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I agree. But you asked for evidence. And if the registration was incorrect by intent then it is the same as voter fraud.
Do you understand how evidence works? or do you want to officially move the goalposts to something ither than evidence?
Because at this point you have stated that if someone confessed to fraud via an affidavit that would be propaganda; saw fraud and reported it? propaganda; data causes suspicion? propaganda; federal judge ruling? ...gotta be propaganda.
I mean, why are you suddenly raising the bar from what you used to exclaim as unassailable "proof" for Russia!Russia!Russia! ?
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Yup. Pretty well. In the context of this thread, it's stuff that you present to a court in support of your case. Then the court looks at the evidence, tests it in various ways, and may or may not consider that it helps you establish your case.
Frankly, the abject failure of a whole series of attempts by Trump's legal team to persuade various courts that the evidence they presented established their case that major fraud had occurred (or even to persuade the court that they had, in fact, presented anything that could be called evidence) is so abysmal that one regards with wary scepticism yet another claim that, THIS TIME, there really is some powerful and persuasive evidence for major fraud.
The only possible response at this stage is "Really? Tell that to the judge."
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Yep. Residents can, in fact, use a post office facility address if they use general delivery. They cannot use a PO Box address; subs might want to make note of the difference.Icarus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:13 pmThis post was lifted verbatim from two Twitter accounts.subgenius wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:01 am
In Georgia nearly 100% of the voters who disguised a postal facility as their residential address voted absentee, with nearly zero voting on Election Day.
(spoiler alert, using postal facilities as address is not allowed, a.k.a. illegal)
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Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a “burst pipe” at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena that was "the cause" for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.
https://Twitter.com/mattbraynard/status ... 3556086787
https://Twitter.com/chuckcallesto/statu ... 7032867840
https://www.fvap.gov/guide/chapter2/georgia
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So, subby, do you really think it is at all plausible that all the judges who have unanimously ruled against Trump's election fraud claims, including Republicans and even those appointed by Trump himself, have all joined in a massive conspiracy to falsely deny the legitimacy of Biden's win?
I'm fairly sure of one thing, though: Trump is probably disappointed and enraged that his judicial appointees were not loyal enough to him to lie or break the law on his behalf, and that he is powerless to simply fire them, like he has almost every other one of his administration who dared refuse to lie for him or break the law for him.
I'm fairly sure of one thing, though: Trump is probably disappointed and enraged that his judicial appointees were not loyal enough to him to lie or break the law on his behalf, and that he is powerless to simply fire them, like he has almost every other one of his administration who dared refuse to lie for him or break the law for him.
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I get the impression he is trying to say, and he appears to be entirely correct, is that it is in court where evidence is either meaningful or tossed out, properly so! And nothing from Twitter accounts have stuck. See, it isn't so hard to grasp once you take confirmation bias on Twitter into account. Oh and, once again Trump's idiotic claims in PA have been struck down again today. After so many dozens, I would think anyone with a brain can see there is no evidence coming in, just more meaningless squealing ...subgenius wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:23 pmSo, what you're saying is that if it appears on Twitter it isn't true.Icarus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:13 pm
This post was lifted verbatim from two Twitter accounts.
https://Twitter.com/mattbraynard/status ... 3556086787
https://Twitter.com/chuckcallesto/statu ... 7032867840
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You absolutely can present nothing more than a wild-eyed assertion as ‘evidence’, legally speaking. But if you’re going to claim massive and targeted fraud of a scale that tipped an election into a fraudulent result, then I’d expect something other than unproven assertions.subgenius wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:31 pmI agree. But you asked for evidence. And if the registration was incorrect by intent then it is the same as voter fraud.
Do you understand how evidence works? or do you want to officially move the goalposts to something ither than evidence?
Because at this point you have stated that if someone confessed to fraud via an affidavit that would be propaganda; saw fraud and reported it? propaganda; data causes suspicion? propaganda; federal judge ruling? ...gotta be propaganda.
I mean, why are you suddenly raising the bar from what you used to exclaim as unassailable "proof" for Russia!Russia!Russia! ?
So far, nothing you’ve presented amounts to much more than unexamined assertions.
Also, rambling on about how your political opponents supposedly had no proof of anything regarding a completely different matter therefore allows you to have a similarly sloppy standard does not help your case.
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https://www.post-gazette.com/news/polit ... 2011280049
tl;dr - 26 PA House Republicans plan to ask pretty please overturn the election - will be denied - will ask Congress pretty please overturn election - will be denied
I'm not sure where the Trump cult goes from here since this is all setting precedent. Oh, and dicks have been flattened much to the resident ----oOo----'s disappointment.
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tl;dr - 26 PA House Republicans plan to ask pretty please overturn the election - will be denied - will ask Congress pretty please overturn election - will be denied
I'm not sure where the Trump cult goes from here since this is all setting precedent. Oh, and dicks have been flattened much to the resident ----oOo----'s disappointment.
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The thing is he never read any of the Russian collusion threads. He'd pop in to insult, post memes, and to crap out some whatabouts or TDS insults, but he never read anything, so he wouldn't know his ass from his elbow when it comes to the issue. I dropped probably around a dozen nonsense lines in my responses to him, Markk, and others regarding the Russian thing, but they never caught it. Why? Because they weren't reading. The never did and they never do. They just meme their way through life, making crap up as they go, and that's why this whole sham seems so plausible to them. They haven't a clue about anything other than their notions of how things should be and then they go off that. They think it's funny or amusing, how they go about their business, but they don't realize (I'd argue they're cognitively incapable of realizing the gravity of their own actions because they're literally retarded) the level of damage they do to the republic, and by extension to themselves.
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