cinepro wrote:To the degree this indicates Trump's public acceptance of the intelligence reports and Russian hacking of the DNC, isn't that a good thing? Why would we want him to "own it" and stubbornly stick to his statements during the press conference?
Because telling an obvious lie in an attempt to back pedal from a fiasco just makes the matter worse. When I say own it I don't mean keep belittling American institutions while praising Putin. I simply mean admit you f'd up and move on. There is no lying your way out of that press conference. If being embarrassed on the world stage finally gets Trump to admit that his position on the Russian investigation is ridiculous, and he will finally accept the reports from his intelligence organizations, that's great.
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"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
He's an unstable self promoter. That's all he ever was. It's just that a whole bunch of conservatives would rather relate to "reality shows" like The Apprentice and Duck Dynasty than understand their world. Their hatred of elites (outside of money and religion) leads them to treat Ted Nugent and Dinesh D'Souza as profound thinkers. It's the return of the Know-Nothings. I've never seen so many people so aggressively proud of their ignorance.
Can you spot the lies? I can spot three of them, possibly a fourth if I didn't believe this would be enough to fool Republicans.
Mr. Trump said the misunderstanding arose from his use of a “double negative.”
“The sentence should have been ‘I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia,’ sort of a double negative,” he said. “So you can put that in and I think that probably clarifies things pretty good by itself. I have on numerous occasions noted our intelligence findings that Russians attempted to interfere in our elections.”
moksha wrote:Can you spot the lies? I can spot three of them, possibly a fourth if I didn't believe this would be enough to fool Republicans.
Mr. Trump said the misunderstanding arose from his use of a “double negative.”
“The sentence should have been ‘I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia,’ sort of a double negative,” he said. “So you can put that in and I think that probably clarifies things pretty good by itself. I have on numerous occasions noted our intelligence findings that Russians attempted to interfere in our elections.”
DarkHelmet wrote:When I say own it I don't mean keep belittling American institutions while praising Putin. I simply mean admit you f'd up and move on.
This.
As opposed to ladling fresh BS on top of yesterday’s stale BS, which is what Trump has attempted to do here.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." Marcus Tullius Cicero
Hilary Clinton " I won the places that represent two-thirds of America's GDP.I won in places are optimistic diverse, dynamic, moving forward"
If anyone has been following Senator Rubio's efforts to confront Russian meddling in our elections (to include his comments on It and Trump's comments at Helsinki) I find this thread and the denials of Trump supporters bizarre and disheartening. I recommend they get very, very familiar with this:
For Water dog it would be some good professional development, and for the others I know there's a 100% certainty you won't read, which is sad.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
When did Democrats start trusting American intelligence. Remember the weapons of mass destruction? This still doesn't compare to Carter kissing up to Brehznev.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:If anyone has been following Senator Rubio's efforts to confront Russian meddling in our elections (to include his comments on It and Trump's comments at Helsinki) I find this thread and the denials of Trump supporters bizarre and disheartening. I recommend they get very, very familiar with this:
For Water dog it would be some good professional development, and for the others I know there's a 100% certainty you won't read, which is sad.
- Doc
That's a rather disturbing and frightening scenario, and, it seems to me, Trump by his actions and policies could hardly be more effective in helping to facilitate that Russian scenario even if that were his deliberate intention (which cannot be unequivocally ruled out at this point).
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
