Right Wing Violence - Media not accountable

[_EAllusion]

We have tons of reason. He kicked off his 2016 campaign with a racist speech.

Do you really think Trump is a white supremacist? I don't even think Trump is a white nationalist. But are you even able to distinguish white supremacist from white nationalist?

White nationalist is a term white supremacists adopted as more appealing much in the same way that creationists became intelligent design proponents. The internal distinction is that white nationalists are segregationists who support a "white" ethnostate whereas white supremacists want "white" dominance. Within this distinction, white nationalism becomes a type of white supremacy. Only, that's a BS distinction as white nationalists are people who were and are called white supremacists using the exact same suite of arguments from the same cultural heritage. It's a distinction largely developed for public relations purposes.

Yes, Donald Trump seems to believe that white people should be (or naturally are) privileged within society and his policy orientation is directed specifically at preserving that aim. His views on immigration are rather blatantly colored by a desire to reduce immigration from non-white populations which he has expressed in barely coded terms on multiple occasions, probably most infamously in his "shithole countries" comments. He frequently imbibes on white supremacist rhetoric and is inordinately defensive of white supremacist groups. He's probably a 1970's Queens style racist who has been influenced by the alt-right crowd he choose to surround himself with. But that's really hard to know for sure because his brain is mush at this point. White supremacists generally love Donald Trump and they aren't mistaken in doing so once you get over the fact that their worldview is a sham that ultimately harms even them.

[_ajax18]

The internal distinction is that white nationalists are segregationists who support a "white" ethnostate whereas white supremacists want "white" dominance.

So in your view wanting segregation is the same thing as wanting white domination?

[_EAllusion]

The internal distinction is that white nationalists are segregationists who support a "white" ethnostate whereas white supremacists want "white" dominance.

So in your view wanting segregation is the same thing as wanting white domination?

Wanting a white ethnostate implies wanting a zone of white domination, so yes? Obviously? But more to the point, the term "nationalist" was adopted instead of "supremacist" by approximately the same people to avoid some of the negative connotation with the latter while describing roughly the same set of beliefs. The technical distinction isn't all that meaningful as it is overwhelmingly just a relabeling of approximately the same group of people. Insofar as you want to make the distinction, white supremacy is a broader category of which white nationalism falls within.

I know what you are thinking is something along the lines of, "White supremacists what global domination of white people, where as white nationalists like myself are happy to have our white ethnostate to ourselves without dominating other countries. We'll just watch the rest of the world burn in their inferiority. Totally different." Note carefully what I am saying in response to that.

That said, I wonder if it would ever dawn on you that your belief system ultimately derives from apologetics for wealthy slaver interests astroturfed in the late 1700 and early 1800's, but then think, "nah."

[_ajax18]

I know what you are thinking is something along the lines of, "White supremacists what global domination of white people, where as white nationalists like myself are happy to have our white ethnostate to ourselves without dominating other countries. We'll just watch the rest of the world burn in their inferiority. Totally different." Note carefully what I am saying in response to that.

I think the relabeling of white nationalist to white supremacist is just a way for those who make your news to make the listener think anyone who wants some kind of segregation and preservation of his culture also wants to lynch every nonwhite person. It's a propaganda spin used as a means to slander and nothing more.

That said, I wonder if it would ever dawn on you that your belief system ultimately derives from apologetics for wealthy slaver interests astroturfed in the late 1700 and early 1800's, but then think, "nah."

My beliefs come from my own life experience.

[_Kevin Graham]

Fox keeps pushing the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that motivated the Tree of Life shooter

Before setting out to allegedly perpetrate what’s believed to have been the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in American history, the Tree of Life synagogue shooter went on Gab to write a post in which he blamed Jewish people in the U.S. “for bringing in an invasion of nonwhite immigrants.” In the past 24 hours, Fox has peddled the same talking point twice during its prime-time programming, showing that the network is not above promoting the same baseless, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories that have motivated violent extremists.

On the April 10 edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity hosted conspiracy theory-monger Glenn Beck, who said the migrant caravans were “directly” funded by “George Soros and others” (George Soros is Jewish). Beck then directly addressed President Donald Trump -- a common practice at Fox -- saying the caravans are “an assault on the republic” and that “we can’t fight the enemy if we won’t call them by name.”

And while fearmongering about immigration during the April 10 edition of his show, Fox Business’ Lou Dobbs claimed “left-wing money, a lot of groups” and “the United Nations” (which the Tree of Life shooter also mentioned) were behind caravans of migrants headed for the U.S. border.

Though Dobbs didn’t specifically mention Jewish people, he has peddled the conspiracy theory of Jewish groups funding migrant caravans enough times that “left-wing money” has become a dog whistle for his intended audience. Dobbs and others at Fox News repeatedly peddled this conspiracy theory in 2018 with little repercussion. After Judicial Watch’s Chris Farrell claimed on Dobbs’ show that the “Soros-occupied State Department” was helping fund a group of migrants traveling to the United States, people widely criticized the show, with Variety noting that “citations like that are typically meant to allude to Jews,” and Fox condemned the statement, banning Farrell from the network. But soon after, Dobbs showed the hollowness of Fox’s attempt to curtail anti-Semitism on its airwaves; as Dobbs tried to wrap up a segment in another episode, one of his guests said criticizing Soros was not anti-Semitic. Dobbs laughed, adding, “I’m certainly glad that I didn’t just break away there.”

Additionally, Dobbs’ baseless comments about migrants have been celebrated in the past by conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones, whose site Infowars pushed the conspiracy theory that the United Nations and George Soros is behind the “migrant caravan invasion.”

After the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre and even after Soros himself was directly targeted with a pipe bomb, right-wing media figures continued their attacks on him. Dobbs posted a tweet, which he later deleted, saying, “Fake News--Fake Bombs.”

Many journalists and media figures noticed yesterday’s episode of blatant anti-Semitism and its connections to the Tree of Life massacre. But to Fox, it’s business as usual.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... y-of-9-11/

Liz Cheney: ‘Antisemite’ Omar Trying To ‘Rewrite History of 9/11’

Funny how Democrats claim Islamic-Americans as their own until they feel like comparing their religiosity to Conservatives.

Makes you go, "Hrm... What could be the reason that Democrats actually like Islamic-Americans? Is it based in racial identity politics?"

Once again we're really starting to see how the Democrats are just crypto-racists using minorities as Uncle Mohammeds when it suits them. Between this and Hispanics being compared to "feral cats" today, I'm deeply saddened by my party's unabashed hate-agenda.

Disgusting.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

The conservative media assault on Omar by taking out of context some very bland comments about Muslims being targeted for collective loss of rights because of the behavior of a few Muslims was some pretty atrocious stuff that got lost a little in the mix of how awful the news has become in general.

[_EAllusion]

Fox keeps pushing the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that motivated the Tree of Life shooter

Before setting out to allegedly perpetrate what’s believed to have been the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in American history, the Tree of Life synagogue shooter went on Gab to write a post in which he blamed Jewish people in the U.S. “for bringing in an invasion of nonwhite immigrants.” In the past 24 hours, Fox has peddled the same talking point twice during its prime-time programming, showing that the network is not above promoting the same baseless, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories that have motivated violent extremists.

On the April 10 edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity hosted conspiracy theory-monger Glenn Beck, who said the migrant caravans were “directly” funded by “George Soros and others” (George Soros is Jewish). Beck then directly addressed President Donald Trump -- a common practice at Fox -- saying the caravans are “an assault on the republic” and that “we can’t fight the enemy if we won’t call them by name.”

And while fearmongering about immigration during the April 10 edition of his show, Fox Business’ Lou Dobbs claimed “left-wing money, a lot of groups” and “the United Nations” (which the Tree of Life shooter also mentioned) were behind caravans of migrants headed for the U.S. border.

Though Dobbs didn’t specifically mention Jewish people, he has peddled the conspiracy theory of Jewish groups funding migrant caravans enough times that “left-wing money” has become a dog whistle for his intended audience. Dobbs and others at Fox News repeatedly peddled this conspiracy theory in 2018 with little repercussion. After Judicial Watch’s Chris Farrell claimed on Dobbs’ show that the “Soros-occupied State Department” was helping fund a group of migrants traveling to the United States, people widely criticized the show, with Variety noting that “citations like that are typically meant to allude to Jews,” and Fox condemned the statement, banning Farrell from the network. But soon after, Dobbs showed the hollowness of Fox’s attempt to curtail anti-Semitism on its airwaves; as Dobbs tried to wrap up a segment in another episode, one of his guests said criticizing Soros was not anti-Semitic. Dobbs laughed, adding, “I’m certainly glad that I didn’t just break away there.”

Additionally, Dobbs’ baseless comments about migrants have been celebrated in the past by conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones, whose site Infowars pushed the conspiracy theory that the United Nations and George Soros is behind the “migrant caravan invasion.”

After the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre and even after Soros himself was directly targeted with a pipe bomb, right-wing media figures continued their attacks on him. Dobbs posted a tweet, which he later deleted, saying, “Fake News--Fake Bombs.”

Many journalists and media figures noticed yesterday’s episode of blatant anti-Semitism and its connections to the Tree of Life massacre. But to Fox, it’s business as usual.

Leftist Jews secretly flooding society with dirty immigrants to destroy its well-being and ultimately allow a takeover was the ur-anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of actual Nazism.

[_EAllusion]

My beliefs come from my own life experience.

Sure. Please explain how you independently derived the existence of "white people" and "white culture" from your life experience without any reference to an inherited cultural frame.

[_Kevin Graham]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/12/liz-cheney-antisemite-omar-trying-to-rewrite-history-of-9-11/

Liz Cheney: ‘Antisemite’ Omar Trying To ‘Rewrite History of 9/11’

Funny how Democrats claim Islamic-Americans as their own until they feel like comparing their religiosity to Conservatives.

Makes you go, "Hrm... What could be the reason that Democrats actually like Islamic-Americans? Is it based in racial identity politics?"

Once again we're really starting to see how the Democrats are just crypto-racists using minorities as Uncle Mohammeds when it suits them. Between this and Hispanics being compared to "feral cats" today, I'm deeply saddened by my party's unabashed hate-agenda.

Disgusting.

- Doc

Funny how the woman hater can't seem to stop obsessively posting hate against women. Democrats don't claim anyone "as their own." And you're binary and anti-nuanced thought processing has become obvious in your inability to distinguish peaceful Americans who happen to be Muslim, with the radical Wahhabis from Saudi Arabia who fly planes into buildings.

You've been posting stupid crap from Breitbart and Daily caller lately. Your complete transformation to a right wing shill is almost complete.