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Dwight wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:35 pm
or as I think, using it as a show prop.
Yeah - I think so too.

He is obviously taking a minor event (a bullet to the head) and trying to make it a big deal. What an attention seeking dictator drama queen.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:47 pm
Yeah - I think so too.

He is obviously taking a minor event (a bullet to the head) and trying to make it a big deal. What an attention seeking dictator drama queen.
Well, come on, Trump has always been a drama queen. This is the guy who had the National Enquirer on speed dial so he could funnel gossip about himself to the tabloid under a fake name.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:47 pm
He is obviously taking a minor event (a bullet to the head) and trying to make it a big deal. What an attention seeking dictator drama queen.
You describe it as "a bullet to the head," which has a very specific connotation that doesn't generally include having your ear clipped.

I think we know who the drama queen is.
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Yes the man who is so insecure that he was wearing shoe lifts that you can see clearly on camera is not just an insole is a drama queen.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:34 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:30 pm
We have the right to know whether the doctors instructed Trump to wear that huge bandage or whether he's using it as prop.
Did you notice the color of that prop? It was white!

Racist dictator!
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All kidding aside, when I took your arguments about communications from the government and applied it to a politician you support, you did exactly what I did -- you stepped back and looked at the reasonableness of my demand given the context.

Now, are you just going to leave your grievance about communications from the government hanging in the air? Didn't you, in boldface type, claim that a press conference should have been held "days ago" when the assassination attempt had occurred only three days ago? And in fact, exactly what you claimed didn't happen -- a press conference by a government agency -- actually had taken place the next day after the assassination attempt.

Why isn't the President speaking directly to the public a couple of times, the head of the Secret Service speaking to the press, and the Head of Homeland Security giving a press conference the day after the attempt a reasonable course of action in the first three days after the shooting?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:36 pm
Now, are you just going to leave your grievance about communications from the government hanging in the air? Didn't you, in boldface type, claim that a press conference should have been held "days ago" when the assassination attempt had occurred only three days ago? And in fact, exactly what you claimed didn't happen -- a press conference by a government agency -- actually had taken place the next day after the assassination attempt.
I am now, but wasn't aware then about this presser (I think I said so in my post about maybe being one but couldn't find one) - other than that, I am good with allowing my grievance hanging in the air.

Ya know, considering how I just leave things hanging in the air, maybe I should get a federal government job. I think I'd fit right in.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:39 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:36 pm
Now, are you just going to leave your grievance about communications from the government hanging in the air? Didn't you, in boldface type, claim that a press conference should have been held "days ago" when the assassination attempt had occurred only three days ago? And in fact, exactly what you claimed didn't happen -- a press conference by a government agency -- actually had taken place the next day after the assassination attempt.
I am now, but wasn't aware then about this presser (I think I said so in my post about maybe being one but couldn't find one) - other than that, I am good with allowing my grievance hanging in the air.

Ya know, considering how I just leave things hanging in the air, maybe I should get a federal government job. I think I'd fit right in.
I'm sad to hear that. I think it's a perfect illustration of how corrosive grievance politics is to our country.
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I am stuck with a thought that I am not happy with. It might not be completely meaningless however.

I watched with some puzzlement the Megan Kelly presentation. I wondered if she was being unfair about the women looking like they did not know what they were doing.I was unsure that that was what I was seeing. It seemed important that the hair swung back and forth distractingly. Yes they were too small to cover Mr Trump or carry him to the vehicle. They were looking out for any further danger in the crowd but the hair did not look like that.

In a grinchy mood I thought Megan was just doing a mean sorority girl attack on women whose hair style was not up to grade. Megan can look very together on camera. In a crowd in a violent event it is not so easy to look composed.

My unpleasant thought was seeing my own reactions to our vice president. Intellectually I can respect her yet when I see her speaking I do not have an automatic trust response. Without thinking I feel she does not present as a leader. Her hair swings about like those ponytails. ... I also suspect her voice patterns are formed a bit like a prosecutor , not an invitation to follow but a confrontational sound in there.
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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:24 pm
I am stuck with a thought that I am not happy with. It might not be completely meaningless however.

I watched with some puzzlement the Megan Kelly presentation. I wondered if she was being unfair about the women looking like they did not know what they were doing.I was unsure that that was what I was seeing. It seemed important that the hair swung back and forth distractingly. Yes they were too small to cover Mr Trump or carry him to the vehicle. They were looking out for any further danger in the crowd but the hair did not look like that.

In a grinchy mood I thought Megan was just doing a mean sorority girl attack on women whose hair style was not up to grade. Megan can look very together on camera. In a crowd in a violent event it is not so easy to look composed.

My unpleasant thought was seeing my own reactions to our vice president. Intellectually I can respect her yet when I see her speaking I do not have an automatic trust response. Without thinking I feel she does not present as a leader. Her hair swings about like those ponytails. ... I also suspect her voice patterns are formed a bit like a prosecutor , not an invitation to follow but a confrontational sound in there.
Sounds like an internal reflection on the possibility of one's own biases, which is a good thing for you to do. At the same time, you realize that a lot of other people might have such biases and be less self-critical or curious about them, which is a realistic thing to think. We may come to the conclusion that those biases are negative, and I agree, but we should also not expect every voter to go through the same self-examination and reach the same conclusions.
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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:24 pm
I am stuck with a thought that I am not happy with. It might not be completely meaningless however.
I find both Harris and Kelly pretty phony on camera. I don't think I'm judging them based on being women (but I allow for the possibility). I believe I'm basing it on what I know about the content of their character. I can name 100 male politicians and media personalities I also find phony.
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