Vaccines and Therapeutics 2.0 & 3.0 Merge

[Jersey Girl]

Oh no, he died?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Oh no, he died?

He diiiiiiid. Nooooooo....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-ha ... g-children

Popular (GOP) governor implemented a mask mandate last month, but some lawmakers continued to flout it

The Gov told his peers to “stop acting like children.” I say it’s their god-given right to hang out with eachother because this chinaflu is a hoooooooax. #donttakethevax #onlystupidlibswillgetvaccinated #GOPchristmaswithfriendsbutnomasks

- Doc

[Jersey Girl]

Oh no, he died?

He diiiiiiid. Nooooooo....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-ha ... g-children

Popular (GOP) governor implemented a mask mandate last month, but some lawmakers continued to flout it

The Gov told his peers to “stop acting like children.” I say it’s their god-given right to hang out with eachother because this chinaflu is a hoooooooax. #donttakethevax #onlystupidlibswillgetvaccinated #GOPchristmaswithfriendsbutnomasks

- Doc

71 years old, surely some pre-existing conditions there, can't wear a mask properly...now dead.

I think I'm with you on the anti-vax campaign. Spread the word.

[Res Ipsa]

About 40% of the US vaccine preorders were from Oxford/Astro Zeneca and Sanofi. Oxford has had to do new phase three trials, and so will be delayed. And it looks like Sanofi has to go back to the drawing board. Meanwhile, it will be increasingly become harder to find volunteers for phase III trials, as many would rather wait until an already approved vaccine is available.

https://Twitter.com/erictopol/status/13 ... 19712?s=21

[Chap]

On a more cheering note if you have not seen this interview it is time that you did:

'No point dying now, is there?'

[Jersey Girl]

About 40% of the US vaccine preorders were from Oxford/Astro Zeneca and Sanofi. Oxford has had to do new phase three trials, and so will be delayed. And it looks like Sanofi has to go back to the drawing board. Meanwhile, it will be increasingly become harder to find volunteers for phase III trials, as many would rather wait until an already approved vaccine is available.

https://Twitter.com/erictopol/status/13 ... 19712?s=21

We need to dig out stuff on Johnson & Johnson, too. I haven't heard a peep about that lately. Will look...

[Jersey Girl]

On a more cheering note if you have not seen this interview it is time that you did:

'No point dying now, is there?'

I heard him interviewed the other day. He's my kinda guy! I loved when he complained about parking...loved his whole attitude.

[Res Ipsa]

About 40% of the US vaccine preorders were from Oxford/Astro Zeneca and Sanofi. Oxford has had to do new phase three trials, and so will be delayed. And it looks like Sanofi has to go back to the drawing board. Meanwhile, it will be increasingly become harder to find volunteers for phase III trials, as many would rather wait until an already approved vaccine is available.

https://Twitter.com/erictopol/status/13 ... 19712?s=21

We need to dig out stuff on Johnson & Johnson, too. I haven't heard a peep about that lately. Will look...

Yeah. I haven’t seen anything in a while.

[Jersey Girl]

I read this last night before going to bed. This guy couldn't be more right on the money than he already is. Part I bolded is especially meaningful to me and a breath of straightforward tell-it-like-it-is fresh air.

Biden starts countering Trump’s messaging on vaccine
With the first shots being prepared for delivery to states next week, Biden’s team is already laying the groundwork for a public education campaign.

By RACHEL ROUBEIN and DAN GOLDBERG

12/12/2020 07:00 AM EST

President-elect Joe Biden's team is feverishly working to get a messaging plan in place to sell a skeptical public on the first FDA-backed coronavirus vaccine, believing the Trump administration has set the effort back significantly.

Biden implied on Friday that he’s not going to wait until he takes office to start counteracting Trump’s mixed messaging on the vaccine, which includes downplaying the public health threat of the coronavirus while hailing the unprecedented speed at which a shot was developed.

"We’re in the teeth of the crisis right now," the president-elect said while introducing a group of Cabinet nominees and administration picks. "This nation needs presidential leadership right now. … You know, we can wish this away, but we have to face it head on.”


With the first shots being prepared for delivery to states next week, Biden’s team is already laying the groundwork for a public education campaign by placing scientists in top posts — and promising to defer to them — and putting an intensive focus on getting the vaccine to underserved populations, according to public health experts who’ve spoken with the transition.

Biden’s messaging now could have an impact on how quickly the U.S. gets back to normal. Health experts think if 75 to 80 percent of Americans get the shots, the nation can potentially achieve herd immunity by next fall and end the pandemic by the close of next year. Lower participation would mean it would take much longer to effectively stop new infections.

“It’s not enough to just get the vaccine out into the community, but getting the community to accept the vaccine," said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at University of Minnesota and a member of Biden’s Covid-19 advisory board, who characterizes the dilemma as "the last-inch challenge."

The Biden team is confronting steep challenges: A monthslong political fight over public health measures like mask wearing has left many crisis-fatigued Americans wary of mandates and new cures and distrustful of government. And tight budgets have left states unable to mount robust awareness campaigns of their own.

Many believe interest in the shots will build as more essential workers, nursing home residents and other priority recipients get them.

But the coronavirus could keep spreading without robust and consistent public messaging.

According to a transition official, the Biden team is "planning on how to communicate in the most creative, transparent and effective ways to reach Americans where they are” with more details available in “the coming weeks.”

The president-elect has found poll results on Americans’ willingness to be vaccinated “staggeringly low.” Recent surveys show less than half of Americans saying they plan to get the shots. Those numbers are significantly lower for Black and Hispanic Americans, according to the recent AP-NORC poll.

To counter skepticism, Biden is giving leading roles to public health figures like infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci, whom he named chief medical adviser on Covid-19 and Marcella Nunez-Smith, a Yale expert on health disparities who was named his Covid-19 Equity Task Force chair, with a focus on ensuring minority communities have access to the vaccine.

Fearing the Trump administration left too much of the pandemic response to the states, Biden has also talked with groups central to distributing the vaccine, such as the Association of Immunization Managers, the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, and the National Association of County and City Health Officials, the groups confirmed to POLITICO.

Meanwhile, groups like the Covid Collaborative and the Ad Council are gearing up to augment government efforts with a $50 million ad campaign in the beginning of next year, including billboards, TV and digital advertisements. The Ad Council has been in touch with the Trump Centers for Disease Control, and Department of Health and Human Services, according to an Ad Council spokesperson.

Public health experts say coordinated messaging on a vaccine should have begun months ago, leaving the incoming administration little time to allay public fears and tamp down growing anti-vaccine sentiment.

“There should be things out in the media now,” said Hemi Tewarson, a visiting senior policy fellow at the Duke-Margolis Center for Health Policy. “They are definitely going to have to play catch up.”

A White House spokesman defended the administration's messaging. "President Trump hosted a three-hour-long, live-streamed, nationally-televised summit regarding the process for developing, reviewing, approving and distributing the vaccine, which he referred to as a 'miracle,' because of its safety and effectiveness. Any mixed messages or attacks from the president’s opponents for political purposes are shameful," the spokesman said in a statement.

The challenges ahead are compounded by early reports of a few adverse reactions in Britain.

Another factor driving vaccine hesitancy is the fear that corners are being cut in the review process to please President Donald Trump — a concern amplified Friday when the White House warned FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn that he could be ousted if the agency didn't quickly authorize the Pfizer vaccine.

The Trump administration still plans to launch a two-year, $250 million public health education, according to an HHS spokesperson, part of which will focus on vaccine acceptance with print, radio and social media ads that include specific messaging for groups and areas of the country that have been hardest hit by the virus. The campaign is aimed at people who are hesitant but not outright resistant to vaccines and is due to begin next week after a troubled planning phase shaped by political considerations.

The administration's Operation Warp Speed was set up to bring a vaccine to market without actually promoting it. That created a vacuum that has been filled by conspiracy theorists and Russian disinformation, said Peter Hotez, a virologist and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine. He said the pro-vaccine forces have so far been outgunned and it will take more than a few public service announcements from the Trump or Biden camps to change the narrative.

“Now we’ve got to do damage control,” he said, adding that he’d like to see Biden task the Commerce, Homeland Security and State departments with addressing disinformation.

Those efforts could be combined with personal appeals from figures in public health and other fields. Vin Gupta, a critical care doctor and pulmonologist who advised the Biden campaign, said he plans to get inoculated on national television.

“Making sure that you have communicators that are credible, authentic, [is] absolutely vital, and I think you’re going to need different types of communicators going to different segments of society,” he said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/1 ... ine-444641

[Jersey Girl]

This from the NEJM concerns me a bit.

Four related serious adverse events were reported among BNT162b2 recipients (shoulder injury related to vaccine administration, right axillary lymphadenopathy, paroxysmal ventricular arrhythmia, and right leg paresthesia).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N ... tured_home

In fact, it wigged me out on first read. Having had a chance to think more about it while driving around in this iced over town earlier, here's my take speaking only for myself.

When I had AFIB I didn't just have AFIB. I had Paroxysmal AFIB with RVR which is rapid ventricular response. Something you don't want okay. You really, really, don't want that.

So...I am going to try to fish around more about this paroxysmal ventricular arrhythmia and see what's up with that. I didn't get to comb through the whole study yet. Maybe it was a one off, a one time event that was recorded. I'll figure that out. If it means dose me up and go get my heart shocked, no problem. I'm in it for protection against the virus and also in it for the propofol--which is from God.

Okay here is a thing about that. It's not a big thing. But it's a thing all the same. For me. Not you.

Doctor: Biden should be vaccinated publicly on Monday

Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a former medical adviser to the George W. Bush administration, says that President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris should be vaccinated as soon as possible - and in public - to assuage concerns surrounding the safety of the coronavirus vaccine.Source: CNN

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/ ... Old Testament-vpx.cnn

This doctor is promoting the health of the President and VPOTUS? This doctor is promoting transparency? What's transparency? Do we even remember?

Here's why it's a thing about that. Biden had at least one case of AFIB for which he was RX'd daily aspirin...and that's it. When he gets his shot maybe it'll trigger his heart? I dunno...probably not. We'll see.

Anyway enjoy the obnoxious Abercrombie ad that plays before the video because they have THE LOUDEST ads I've ever heard!