Palin's Speech: What do you think?

[_Droopy]

So, in your view, God would have "blessed" America during, say, the days of slavery? Or when we deliberately infected Indians with smallpox?

1. There was much more going on in America in those times than slavery.

2. There is not a shred of compelling historical evidence for any attempt to deliberately infect American Indians with smallpox. This is just more left wing multiculturalist myth making the intent of which is to defame and impugn America as a concept. The scant evidence for it is completely ancedotal, and no documentary evidence exists for any such attempt by the U.S. government.

Support you local publik skool.

[_Droopy]

For every one Colin Powell, a millionaire, you’ve got 10 million blacks who cannot read.

This is patent nonsense, as there are only 40.2 million blacks in the United States, and between two thirds and three fourths of the black population are situated somewhere in the middle class. How they got there, without being able to read, I'd like to know.

[_Droopy]

Try reading my post and thinking about it for a change.

f*** no. Are you kidding me? For the same reason I don't huff gasoline, I won't be doing that.

Only a small percentage of blacks inhabit the inner city and are a part of the welfare underclass, but their values, mannerisms, dress, language, and culture has come to dominate black pop culture to a great degree.

Here we go again:

b***s***, b***s***, b***s***.

Blacks, at just under 13% of the population, commit 51% of all homicides, have an average 70% out of wedlock birth rate, huge high school drop out rates compared to other groups, and are a prey to other negative social indicators at grossly disproportionate rates.

We know. Kevin already explained why. BET, The SOURCE, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, and rap music. You're f*****g kidding me, right?

Those are the facts

It must be a fun world to live in where you can pull things out of your fat pale ass and call them facts. Unfortunately, the only fact that has been established is that you and Kevin are racist. And a lot older and out of touch than I initially thought.

is a part of too many black communities continues.

Oh just go f*** yourself already. You don't know what you are talking about. When is the last time you've seen a black person in real life? You f*****g racist bumpkin.

Kill yourself.

This, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, friends and Romans, is the typical Democrat voter. This is the party base within the general population. This is to whom Obama appeals.

Goodk has recused herself from the marketplace of ideas to the far fringes of American political, intellectual, and philosophical life.

Where, apparently, this person belongs.

[_GoodK]

This, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, friends and Romans, is the typical Democrat voter.This is the party base within the general population. This is to whom Obama appeals.

Oh come on. We all know you don't have any friends.

Apparently Obama appeals to people who aren't blinded with racist hatred and partisan fear-mongering. When did I say I was voting for Obama, by the way? And do you have to wear the hood while your posting, too?

Goodk has recused herself from the marketplace of ideas to the far fringes of American political, intellectual, and philosophical life.

The intellectual giant, Droopy/Loran/Coggins/Shirley Phelps is so well equipped and educated, she has resorted to calling me a girl. My. That stopped me in my tracks. You must not be a fat old racist redneck after all.


This, my friends, is who the Republican party (and Christian charlatans) appeal to.



Droopy - Christmas 2006

[_Droopy]

The intellectual giant, Droopy/Loran/Coggins/Shirley Phelps i

I have asked you twice now who Shirley Phelps is. You have refused to answer.

Why might that be?

[_GoodK]

I have asked you twice now who Shirley Phelps is. You have refused to answer.

Why might that be?

You know damn well who Shirley Phelps is.

That's why.

[_beastie]

There is not a shred of compelling historical evidence for any attempt to deliberately infect American Indians with smallpox. This is just more left wing multiculturalist myth making the intent of which is to defame and impugn America as a concept. The scant evidence for it is completely ancedotal, and no documentary evidence exists for any such attempt by the U.S. government.

Feel free to substitute any number of other atrocities, such as Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male.
Jingoist Republicans remind me of naïve and gullible parents who refuse to admit that their child committed a grievous, amoral act. Due to the fact that these parents love their own reflection more than they love the actual person/child, they react defensively and angrily when someone else dares to point out what their child actually did.
Love means being able to recognize the person as he/she is, and that includes being able to recognize when that includes acts of grievous amorality. Parents who love the person/child more than their own reflection realize that the first step towards changing and making amends is recognizing reality as it is, and accepting that their loved child actually did commit a grievous, amoral act. A narcissistic parent who cannot bring him or herself to admit the fact does great harm to his/her child, because without recognizing the truth, meaningful change and amends cannot be made.

There was much more going on in America in those times than slavery.

I know an LDS man who was a reliable worker, took care of his children’s financial, religious, and educational needs, was a faithful tithe payer, temple attendee, fulfilling his callings, who also happened to be regularly molesting his daughter from her infancy up to the time she reached puberty.

So, would your God “damn” him for molesting his daughter, despite the fact that there was “much more going on” in his life?

Of course, given the fact that supporters of slavery and later discriminatory practices used the Bible to support their stance, maybe your God would be fine with slavery. As long as the nation, as a whole, was “Christian”, eh? Not worshipping other gods or anything really outrageous.

So maybe your God is also A-Ok with child molestation, and would not see that, alone, as cause for damnation.

[_beastie]

Anyone who imagines that the educational and economic challenges African Americans still face in many parts of the US can be attributed to the "rap culture" is an ignorant fool who ought to take grandma's advice and remain silent and let people think he's a fool, rather than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Illiteracy is a plague that is visited upon generations. "Rap culture" and the implied laziness has nothing to do with it.

Behold, folks, the core of the Republican party who are still in McCain's camp...people who can barely cloak their racism and ignorance.

"Treason" "Abomination" "He's an Arab"

Educated, non-racist republicans ought to think long and hard about what this campaign is cultivating in their comrades.

[_Droopy]

Feel free to substitute any number of other atrocities, such as Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male.

A shameful episode - and history long ago made, thankfully, so we can move on (and, to reiterate, there is not a shred of documentary evidence of any plan to infect American Indians with smallpox).

Jingoist Republicans remind me of naïve and gullible parents who refuse to admit that their child committed a grievous, amoral act. Due to the fact that these parents love their own reflection more than they love the actual person/child, they react defensively and angrily when someone else dares to point out what their child actually did.

More know-nothing fantasizing about the conservative phantoms so often chased by leftists who have nothing better to do than gaze rapt into the mirror enveloped in their own perceived moral superiority.

I just snipped the remaining Oprafied pop psych surface film for the sake of brevity.

I know an LDS man who was a reliable worker, took care of his children’s financial, religious, and educational needs, was a faithful tithe payer, temple attendee, fulfilling his callings, who also happened to be regularly molesting his daughter from her infancy up to the time she reached puberty.

So, would your God “damn” him for molesting his daughter, despite the fact that there was “much more going on” in his life?

This is utterly fascinating sophistry. Slavery was an accepted institution since the beginning of human civilization across virtually all known cultures, and it was only when the Declaration and Constitution created a massive cognitive and moral dissonance in American society that slavery became a live issue and began to be challenged. Unlike sexually molesting one's own children, it wasn't considered evil, for the most part, until a body of principles arose against which it could be contrasted.

You are a victim of the postmodern world Beastie, a pathetic, besotted, but willing victim.

Of course, given the fact that supporters of slavery and later discriminatory practices used the Bible to support their stance, maybe your God would be fine with slavery. As long as the nation, as a whole, was “Christian”, eh? Not worshipping other gods or anything really outrageous.

The abolitionist movement used the Bible as well, based as it was in Christian moral and social teaching.

Try to enjoy the daylight Beastie.

[_dartagnan]

Anyone who imagines that the educational and economic challenges African Americans still face in many parts of the US can be attributed to the "rap culture" is an ignorant fool who ought to take grandma's advice and remain silent and let people think he's a fool, rather than to speak out and remove all doubt.

But you were doing so well all this time beastie, and now you look foolish because you clearly have no basis to make your charge. You're completely out of touch with Black culture. I'm not. I've been in more homes of poorer/middle class African Americans in one year than you ever will.

Illiteracy is a plague that is visited upon generations.

Yes, nobody has denied this. But your previous argument that the appearance of a book or magazine in the homes of the illiterate, will suddenly cure the disease, is not only naïve, it is downright stupid.

"Rap culture" and the implied laziness has nothing to do with it.

It is this mentality that becomes part of the problem, not the answer.

Behold, folks, the core of the Republican party who are still in McCain's camp...people who can barely cloak their racism and ignorance.

I have Bill Cosby on my side. Is he a racist too?

"Treason" "Abomination" "He's an Arab"

Oh trust me, you don't want to play that card. Tarski tried it and he was silenced with a little dose of reality. Nothing can top the extremist rhetoric from the liberal camp. Nothing.

Educated, non-racist republicans ought to think long and hard about what this campaign is cultivating in their comrades.

What I said has nothing to do with "this campaign." I relay facts as I have learned them and I learn them from first hand experience. You are completely out of touch with the younger generation of African Americans. I'm not. You do not understand why so many don't want to read. You can't make a group willing to take education seriously by throwing money at the schools and forcing books in their homes.

Obama will do nothing to help African Americans because he is a product of this sick school of thought that says blacks are eternally oppressed and should blame the white man for all their problems. You're a part of this problem too, which is why you keep these examples of past racisms tucked under your pillow so you can whip them out quickly to call someone today a racist. There is little reason to be positive or assume self reliance is even possible in "racist" America, and that is why African Americans are a depressed society.

Yes, a depressed society. Just pick up the more popular black magazines the next time you're at the drug store. Flip through them and count how many white models you see. Zero. Then count how many black models are smiling. It is miserable just flipping through it because it is a part of black culture to look pissed off.

And then try reading one of the articles written by their columnists, if you can make it through half a paragraph without feeling the need to break out a dictionary on ghetto slang.

THIS IS WHAT YOUNGER AFRICAN AMERICANS READ. It is naïve to sit there and pretend African American kids are not impressionable and do not have role models the same as white kids. Of course they do. SO let's look at what they read. Let's listen to what they listen to. Let's observe how they act, dress, etc. Let's deduce the facts as we would any white kid.

Calling everyone who shares the facts, a "racist" is nothing short of intellectual terrorism that kills any hope of a solution to the problem.

Hopefully an Obama win will serve one good purpose. To put to rest this ridiculous notion that America is a racist country. How can a racist country elect a black man? Remember, Obama's minister prophecied that this would never happen.

If African Americans learned to be more self reliant and accountable for their own behavior, then people like Jesse Jackson and Reverend Wright would be out of business.