Jersey Girl, did you determine whether the 2002 issues of The Hill are online?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:Sure it’s a fact. So what? A quote from a primary source is neither necessary nor sufficient to reach a reasonable conclusion that a fact is true. And the absence of such a quote does not qualify an assertion as a “rumor.”
Okay. It's not a rumor. It's a claim for which we have no proof.
Better?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Res Ipsa wrote:Sure it’s a fact. So what? A quote from a primary source is neither necessary nor sufficient to reach a reasonable conclusion that a fact is true. And the absence of such a quote does not qualify an assertion as a “rumor.”
Okay. It's not a rumor. It's a claim for which we have no proof.
Better?
Better, yes. Proof to what standard?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said Thursday during an appearance on MSNBC that she thought it was “outrageous” Vice President Mike Pence would not meet with women alone.
“I disagree with him when he suggests it’s not possible to have meetings with women alone by himself,” the California senator and 2020 Democratic presidential contender told MSNBC on Thursday. “I think that’s ridiculous― the idea that you would deny a professional woman the opportunity to have a meeting with the vice president of the United States is outrageous.”
Harris was referring to a 2002 interview where Pence revealed that he never dines alone with women other than his wife Karen and does not drink in public unless his wife is by his side.
Harris:
would not meet with women alone. to have meetings with women alone by himself,
Presumably Pence:
that he never dines alone with women other than his wife Karen and does not drink in public unless his wife is by his side.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Pence told The Hill in 2002 that he “never eats alone with a woman other than his wife,”
vs Harris quoted in the same article
“I disagree with him when he suggests it’s not possible to have meetings with women alone by himself. I think that’s ridiculous — the idea that you would deny a professional woman the opportunity to have a meeting with the vice president of the United States is outrageous.”
Cosmo article quote. I'm listening to a murder case. I'm not formatting squat here other than bolding.
I thought of those quiet inequalities when the Washington Post published a story on Vice President Mike Pence’s wife, Karen, highlighting an interview from 2002 where Mike Pence says he never has dinner alone with another woman, ostensibly to avoid sexual temptation. In his telling, this is a way to keep his marriage strong — asked if Pence continues to abide by this rule, Pence’s office told Cosmopolitan.com that this line was being taken “entirely out of context” but went on to say Pence “set a standard to ensure a strong marriage when he first came to DC as a congressman, clearly that worked.”
Res Ipsa wrote:Jersey Girl, did you determine whether the 2002 issues of The Hill are online?
I haven't found them. I found one quote from Pence on Politico presumably taken directly from the 2002 article.
The quote doesn't say what Kamala Harris claims.
ETA: There's also the Cosmo quote from Pence that says his comments were taken out of context.
I think Politico quoted the Post, not Pence.
The Cosmo quote is of a Pence spokesperson, not Pence. According to another spokesperson, Harris’s characterization was “false” Hard to evaluate either comment, as neither gave the missing context or offered any hint about what, exactly, was false.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Jersey Girl wrote:Cosmo article quote. I'm listening to a murder case. I'm not formatting squat here other than bolding.
I thought of those quiet inequalities when the Washington Post published a story on Vice President Mike Pence’s wife, Karen, highlighting an interview from 2002 where Mike Pence says he never has dinner alone with another woman, ostensibly to avoid sexual temptation. In his telling, this is a way to keep his marriage strong — asked if Pence continues to abide by this rule, Pence’s office told Cosmopolitan.com that this line was being taken “entirely out of context” but went on to say Pence “set a standard to ensure a strong marriage when he first came to DC as a congressman, clearly that worked.”
Yeah, Pence’s office. And did the office provide the missing context?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
