Impeachment hearings

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Re: Impeachment hearings

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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:..
Make no mistake, Romney took a risk to do what is right.

good thing Mitt has no ties to Ukraine.
And once again, we see your imaginary witness of current events. Are their boys scaring girls in the quad today?


I think subgenius just had a stroke.

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SteelHead wrote:Trump had 2.5 years to ask the doj to investigate the Bidens. Never brought it up in any of his conversations with the Ukrainians until Biden began to outperform him in the post. Funny that.


I'm amused at the argument, referenced by Mikwut a little upthread, that Trump had no reason to see Biden as a rival until he formally announced he was running. Nevermind that he was shadow-running much longer than that and was widely expected to announce for a long time before he did. Nevermind that Biden's name was frequently included in head to head polls as far back as they go. Never mind all that.
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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:..
Make no mistake, Romney took a risk to do what is right.

good thing Mitt has no ties to Ukraine.
And once again, we see your imaginary witness of current events. Are their boys scaring girls in the quad today?


Ooooookaaaaayyyyy...
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Impeachment has sucked up a lot of the attention, but the Trump's recent restrictive measures on immigration and making ICE/CBP more police state-like are really alarming. I don't even understand how it's viewed as a plausible authority of unilateral executive action.

Anywho, the Trump admin has been rapid-fire doing awful things in the lead up to his anticipated acquittal. I'm certain things are going to get worse before they get better.
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MissTish wrote:Markk-

Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?

Jersey Girl wrote:Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?


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Romney is the first person in the history of the United States to cast a guilty vote at the impeachment trial of his own Party's President. Already there is a recall effort in Utah.

Damn Mitt, I'm proud of you.

Today I was thinking about Wayne Morse and Ernest Gruening, the only two Senators to vote against the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, LBJ's blank check for the Vietnam War. (By the way, both were Democrats.) How many millions of lives would have been saved if we had more Senators like Morse and Gruening?

Mitt's father was a stalwart Civil Rights supporter, which put him at odds with some of the LDS hierarchy at the time. I think George Romney would have been proud of his son today.
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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:..
Make no mistake, Romney took a risk to do what is right.

good thing Mitt has no ties to Ukraine.
And once again, we see your imaginary witness of current events. Are their boys scaring girls in the quad today?


Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I think subgenius just had a stroke.

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MeDotOrg wrote:Romney is the first person in the history of the United States to cast a guilty vote at the impeachment trial of his own Party's President. Already there is a recall effort in Utah.

Damn Mitt, I'm proud of you.

Today I was thinking about Wayne Morse and Ernest Gruening, the only two Senators to vote against the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, LBJ's blank check for the Vietnam War. (By the way, both were Democrats.) How many millions of lives would have been saved if we had more Senators like Morse and Gruening?

Mitt's father was a stalwart Civil Rights supporter, which put him at odds with some of the LDS hierarchy at the time. I think George Romney would have been proud of his son today.

I agree. Mitt showed himself to be the only Republican Senator today who has a spine. I trust and hope that most of those who voted for acquittal will find that they badly miscalculated by their craven decision to acquit the criminal who now resides in the Whitehouse. I think that decision will eventually come back and bite them painfully and embarrassingly. Already a few of them have chosen to resign from politics rather than risk embarrassing defeat the next time they are up for reelection.

It is becoming increasingly obvious that they voted to eschew further witnesses and evidence, not because they were convinced of Trump's innocence, but because further evidence would only show them in an even worse light than they already are by acquitting Trump, which they were already hell bent to do, regardless of the truth or falsity of the allegations against Trump.
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“The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,” Romney said. “And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one's oath—that I can imagine. It's what autocrats do.”

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:“The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,” Romney said. “And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one's oath—that I can imagine. It's what autocrats do.”

- Doc

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